--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It's the same predisposition that leads people to think they're > so > > > important that the CIA actually has to spend it's time and > energy to > > > spy on them. > > > > > > IMO, many have not looked at all sides of the CIA thing -- and thus > > draw limited conclusions. My experience in teaching for a year in a > > foreign country was: > > > > i) many locals thought we may be CIA -- perhaps jokingly, > > speculatively or seriously -- but in talking to good friends I made > > there -- in private, they would confide that we being CIA was a > > specualtive rift in the air -- the buzz in many circles. > > > > ii) I found out years later (from one of the guys who married > a > > local girl, and had long-term strong business and social ties in > the > > upper levels of society in that country) that the local > government, a > > dictatorship -- so no pesky human rights issues to get in the way - > - > > did keep detailed files on each of us (foreign TM teachers). Right > > down to quite personal , um dating issues. > > > > It did occur to me over the years -- and recently when watching > that > > excellent Michael Caine film, "The Quiet American" -- that the > groups > > of TMO Americans and Europeans in the 70's who flooded into foreign > > countries world wide, WOULD be an excellent conduit for the CIA. Or > > other foreign intelligence agencies. We had great "cover" to travel > > anywhere in the country, meeting with locals at all levels of > society > > -- academic, religous, military, regional and national govt > > administration, entertainers, businessmen, etc, flying off to > Europe > > at times, lots of international phone calls etc. > > > > While I have no direct knowledge that such agencies did join our > ranks > > (in Associate 108 programs -- and similar), I find it quite > plausible > > that some did. > > > > Or, the CIA might have gotten wind that some other foreign agencies > > were using the TMO A108 program, so they sent some agents to > > infiltrate to see what the other agnecies might be up to. > > > > Or, knowing that the A108's were subject to detailed scrutiny by > local > > gov'ts, they may have seen this as an opportunity to recruit locals > > embedded in the local gov'ts intelligence networks. > > > > So, for a number of reasons, I find it plausible that the CIA or > other > > intelligence agencies were inside the TMO at times. This has > nothing > > to do with delusions of self-importance. To simply laugh this off > as > > delusions of self-importance -- is simplistic and missing quite a > bit > > of the picture. > > > > That an intelligence-gathering arm of a government was gathering > information on an organisation that claimed to levitate and had a > world government that seeked to control the entire world, yes, I, > too, find that plausible. And it's the job of the CIA to gather > information on any and all foreign-run organisations of this kind > and if they weren't gathering information on the TMO they would be > derelict in their duty. > > That any credible intelligence organisation ever thought that MMY > or the TMO were important enough to actually spend more time than > just gathering newsclips and such? No, I don't find that plausible.
Any group that makes public claims to be able to do things that would be useful to the CIA (levitation, invisibility, etc.), or dangerous to this country if the enemy's spy agencies could do them, is *automatically* important until the CIA can document that the claims are bogus. News clips wouldn't have done the job; they had to see for themselves. It's not at all implausible that the CIA would have given provisional credence to the TMO's claims before checking them out. There were parts of the CIA back then (and perhaps still) that were heavily into investigating the paranormal for potential use in spying operations (remote viewing, for example). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
