--- In [email protected], Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > A good thing. There will be some blowback about > > this, interestingly enough from cafe and restaurant > > owners who feel (rightly) that it will hit them in > > the cash register, but in the latest polls over 70% > > of the people felt that it was time, so it's time. > > > > What I'm wondering is whether there are loopholes, > > such as I've seen in California and recently in > > Dublin. It turns out that in both those places, > > although smoking is banned in restaurants and bars, > > that only covers areas under the *roof* of the > > building. So what happens is that establishments > > put tables and chairs in the adjoining alleyway > > or the area formerly used for garbage bins, and > > get to call it a "smoking area." It turns into a > > real windfall for the few establishments that can > > do this, because all those who haven't given up > > smoking flock to the place. > > > > > In California if you have a family run restaurant with no employees > outside the family you can have smoking in the bar area. We have a > local family run restaurant with great Italian food I won't frequent as > the only visit there was for dinner and the bar and dining room are in > the same room. We enjoyed the food but not the smoke. They could also > stand to invest in some acoustical ceiling as the room was too loud. > And then they don't take credit cards. They must stay in business > because of the food quality. > > > > That said, it's really going to change the French > > cityscape. Smoking and smoking in cafes is so much > > a part of the French mythos that it's going to cause > > a lot of smokers to go through a *bunch* of changes. > > Not as many changes as dying, however... > > > > > A few years back at a local Starbucks I was sitting outside in an area > designated "no smoking." This particular Starbucks had a large area > around the corner for smokers. The "no smoking" signs were prominently > displayed in my area but still some guy came out of an adjacent > restaurant, stood right in front of where I was sitting with his > cigarette smoke drifting right into my face. When I asked politely if > he minded moving he launched into a tirade. I was pretty close to > getting into a brawl that day as I tend to up the ante in a heated > moment.
You and Bush sound quite alike. > I mentioned to the manager a couple days later how people > ignored the "no smoking" sign and she who is a smoker herself replied > "some people have shit for brains." > > Yup, it should be interesting to see how Europeans react to this > especially if it spreads to other countries that don't already have such > a rule. > > And speaking of the French and smoking, click this > > link and then scroll to the bottom of the page to > > see a recent photo of Jean Paul Belmondo at 73. The > > dude's had some health problems in recent years, but > > has hit the gym to combat them, and to my eye he looks > > *really* good for 73, and for the man who almost single- > > handedly formed the link in film buffs' minds between > > French men and the cigarette dangling from their lips. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/jnjw2 > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > wrote: > > > >> France to impose smoking ban from 2007 > >> Sun Oct 8, 2006 1:47pm ET > >> Health News > >> > >> "We have decided to ban smoking in public places from February 1, > >> 2007," he told RTL radio and LCI television. > >> > >> He added that bar-tabacs, discos and other such places would have > >> until January 1, 2008 at the latest to comply with the rules. > >> > >> Public places include stations, museums, government offices and > >> shops but not in the streets or private places such as houses or > >> hotel rooms. > >> > >> > >> Villepin added the state would take charge of one-third of the costs > >> of anti-smoking treatments, such as a patch. > >> > >> "That would represent the first month of treatment," he said. > >> > >> In a report presented on Wednesday, several parliamentarians called > >> for a total ban from September 1, 2007 at the latest, without > >> exception. But a smoking ban will cause problems for the many > >> tobacco shops in France. > >> > >> Villepin declined to comment on the impact it would have on > >> government tax revenues, saying that public health considerations > >> outweighed any such fiscal impact. > >> > >> In the report, the parliamentarians said that each year between > >> 2,500 and 5,800 people died of the consequences of passive smoking > >> -- inhaling the smoke of smokers. Some 66,000 smokers die each year. > >> Continued... > >> > >> © Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://standraise.corp.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://standraise.corp.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
