--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > And I don't think it turns black holes theory on its head. Black holes are a > consequence of > classical newtonian physics and Special Relativity, are they not? Hawkings' > conclusions > were combining QM with black holes. That doesn't make black holes impossible according > to classical physics, just questions the relationship with QM and gravity, > which has always > been a sticky issue. >
I meant to say General Relativity, not special. And GR and QM have never gotten along well. That was what made Hawking's theory so important to the Physics community, IIRC. The NON-quantum theories of black holes are considered reasonably intact from what I've read. Information-escape from large-scale black holes like the ones that are supposed to happen due to collapsing stars is expected to take TRILLIONS **of** TRILLIONS of years, even now, after Hawkings lost his bet, so it shouldn't affect how they behave in the "near term," like on the order of magnitude of the age of the universe, or some other short span of time... IOW, if you approach a standard-theory black-hole-like entity, you'll still get ripped to shreds by tidal effects well beore you cross the "event horizon," and if we're living in a universe-sized black hole, we'll never know it unless we can show that space is curved sufficiently, which does't appear to be the case. I taught myself elementary calculus when I was 15, and invented a variation Gauss's technique to sum the numbers 1 to 100 at the same age he did (3rd grade--in response to a challenge to the class by the teacher who was telling us about Gauss). My ADHD prevents me from going on to higher-level math, but don't get snitty with me, ok, Off- world? In case you're interested, Guass's technique was 1+100= 101 2+99 = 101 ... 51+50 = 101 51 x 101 = 5050. Mine was: 1+99 = 100 2+ 98 = 100 ... 49 + 51 = 100 49 x100 + 100 + 50 = 5050. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
