--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> 
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > [Saddam] was a man who had already invaded the 
> > > Kurds, Kuwait and Iran.  Millions had already died.
> > <snip>
> > > 
> > > No one wanted to act; Bush acted.
> > 
> > Even using the (most likely wildly inflated) estimate
> > of 2 million for deaths caused by Saddam, and a more
> > conservative 350,000 of those dying as a result of the
> > Iraq war than the latest Lancet estimate, Saddam comes
> > out looking like less of a monster than Bush in terms
> > of deaths per year.
> > 
> > 2,000,000 / 24 (years of Saddam's rule) =  83,000
> > 350,000 / 3 (years of Bush's war)       = 116,000
> > 
> > See a thoughtful analysis at Billmon's blog,
> > noting the above and examining other ways of
> > measuring the kill rate in Iraq:
> > http://billmon.org/archives/002822.html
> >
> 
> 
> Now, Judy, I'd like you to do the same comparison between how many 
> died on average for each of the 5 years of the U.S. Civil War and 
> how many African-Americans died during slavery for the years prior 
> to the Civil War.
>
i posted on part of this a bit ago, having dug the info to address
questions I had. 

As I recall, the civil war was by far the bloodiest US conflict, and
there was about one civil war death for every 2 slaves. And the war
was not pursued in the beginning to free the slaves. Lincoln
campaigned against such in 1860 as ui recall. And did not add the
emancipation theme until his 1864 inagural. Seen more as a ploy to
keep Europeans form ading the South than to actually free slaves. And 
And the Emancipation Proc did not free existing northern slaves, only
southern ones. Quite the hypocracy. 








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