--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >

> > > > "Dismissal of the relative" isn't Advaitic anyway.
> > > 
> > > Yes. Its sort of like concluding that people who realize that films
> > > are an illusion, are people who don't like films.
> > 
> > But the point MMY makes--and I've heard other
> > teachers make it, so it's not just him--is not
> > that the relative is an illusion; rather, the
> > illusion is that the relative isn't Brahman.
> > 
> > Your analogy works nicely either way, though.
> 
> The words I often heard hims say is -- relative = maya: paraphrasing
> -- maya is that which is not. Its not that maya is an illusion, its
> not what it appears.
> 
> Snake is really a rope.
> 
> And/or -- parallel to greeks -- Hericlitus? -- its ever changing. It
> has no permanence. Its here today, gone tomorrow. How can one give
> that the status of "real".
>

Kids get it -- despite some who assert they have no spiritual interests. 

"Thats Unreal! (dude)" : -- a mantra of the current teen -20's cohort
 (and aslo usde by past cohorts, who dropped it and are now dazzled by
the relative "Thats Awesome".








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