--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > --- jyouells2000 <jyouells@> wrote: > > > > > > > My experience is that the 'bound' self is built upon > > > > the unwillingness > > > > to be nothing, the fear of > > > > that... Sort of a continuous looking away. > > > > > > Brilliant(IMHO)!! The continuous looking away is also > > > a continuous looking for a subjective "feeling" of > > > self that affirms (falsely) that "I exist." The mind > > > does this every few seconds in waking state. It's a > > > very subtle egoic habit. You can see this habit in CC > > > because the mind turns to find something to affirm > > > itself and nothing, literally, is found instead. There > > > is no longer a felt-sense of "I" to affirm > > > individuality. There is, again, literally, nothing > > > there to find but pure consciousness and pure > > > consciousness is something that the mind can not > > > comprehend. > > > > I know this was a couple of days ago, but today > > I found myself wondering whether the same "looking > > away" could help to explain those with an Internet > > addiction. They intuit that they're close to the > > experience of nothingness, and that scares them, > > so they post a lot and/or post stuff calculated > > to get a response (positive or negative doesn't > > matter, just as long as it's a response), all so > > that the self can preserve the illusion of itself. > > As long as the self is busy dealing with one-on- > > one interactions, the "looking away" succeeds, the > > illusion of self's existence is preserved, and > > the person never has to deal with the nothingness > > they can feel just over the horizon. > > For that matter, could *all* forms of addiction > be a way to preserve the illusion of self, and > keep selflessness at bay? It's certainly been > fascinating for me to see the number of *former* > seekers and practitioners of meditation who, soon > after abandoning their path, get into some form > of heavy addiction, whether it be smoking ciga- > rettes or smoking dope or drinking. Some of it > is a "I denied myself all these things for years > and so now I have the right to indulge" thang, > but on another level it might be related to > a subconscious desire to keep enlightenment away. > > Another form of addiciton that lends itself to > this interpretation is the anti-cult cult. In my > experience, *most* of the leaders of this anti- > movement movement, when they tell their personal > stories, come to a pivotal moment for them that > goes something like this: "In meditation I got > to a point where I lost all sense of who I was. > This scared me so much that I never wanted that > to happen again, so I quit meditating, and now > I work to warn others that they might get to > a similar place." What if the "work" they do as > an "anti-cult counselor" is their way of not > only avoiding full transcendence/loss of self, > but a way to prevent others from going further > than they dared to go? > > Just thoughts on a rainy afternoon. Not trying > to sell them to anyone... >
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