--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- jyouells2000 <jyouells@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My experience is that the 'bound' self is built upon
> > > > the unwillingness
> > > > to be nothing, the fear of
> > > > that... Sort of a continuous looking away.
> > >
> > > Brilliant(IMHO)!! The continuous looking away is also
> > > a continuous looking for a subjective "feeling" of
> > > self that affirms (falsely) that "I exist." The mind
> > > does this every few seconds in waking state. It's a
> > > very subtle egoic habit. You can see this habit in CC
> > > because the mind turns to find something to affirm
> > > itself and nothing, literally, is found instead. There
> > > is no longer a felt-sense of "I" to affirm
> > > individuality. There is, again, literally, nothing
> > > there to find but pure consciousness and pure
> > > consciousness is something that the mind can not
> > > comprehend.
> >
> > I know this was a couple of days ago, but today
> > I found myself wondering whether the same "looking
> > away" could help to explain those with an Internet
> > addiction. They intuit that they're close to the
> > experience of nothingness, and that scares them,
> > so they post a lot and/or post stuff calculated
> > to get a response (positive or negative doesn't
> > matter, just as long as it's a response), all so
> > that the self can preserve the illusion of itself.
> > As long as the self is busy dealing with one-on-
> > one interactions, the "looking away" succeeds, the
> > illusion of self's existence is preserved, and
> > the person never has to deal with the nothingness
> > they can feel just over the horizon.
>
> For that matter, could *all* forms of addiction
> be a way to preserve the illusion of self, and
> keep selflessness at bay? It's certainly been
> fascinating for me to see the number of *former*
> seekers and practitioners of meditation who, soon
> after abandoning their path, get into some form
> of heavy addiction, whether it be smoking ciga-
> rettes or smoking dope or drinking. Some of it
> is a "I denied myself all these things for years
> and so now I have the right to indulge" thang,
> but on another level it might be related to
> a subconscious desire to keep enlightenment away.
>
> Another form of addiciton that lends itself to
> this interpretation is the anti-cult cult. In my
> experience, *most* of the leaders of this anti-
> movement movement, when they tell their personal
> stories, come to a pivotal moment for them that
> goes something like this: "In meditation I got
> to a point where I lost all sense of who I was.
> This scared me so much that I never wanted that
> to happen again, so I quit meditating, and now
> I work to warn others that they might get to
> a similar place." What if the "work" they do as
> an "anti-cult counselor" is their way of not
> only avoiding full transcendence/loss of self,
> but a way to prevent others from going further
> than they dared to go?
>
> Just thoughts on a rainy afternoon. Not trying
> to sell them to anyone...
>

For some of those folks, even if they stop it's too late, and they still
get 'hit by the bus'.







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