There's englithened and there's enlightened. Just because someone experiences PC 24/7 doesn't mean they can't be drawn out of this state by the right situtation/drug/stress. OTOH, MMY claims that someone who is in full-blown Unity can stand on the surface of the Sun without being harmed.
That's a different kettle of fish entirely, I think. --- In [email protected], "suziezuzie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How would you evaluate the following. > > Enlightenment is defined as stabilized Being or Self during the three > states of consciousness, waking, dreaming, and deep sleep. The Self > is not overshadowed, an aspect of the nervous system is able to > maintain that fullness at all times. The Self behaves as a continual > witness to the ever changing relative states of consciousness. > > Now let's assume that Joe is enlightened and for some reason, he > consumes a strong drug such as hash, LSD, etc. If Joe is enlightened, > by definition, we could assume that his experience would be that of > witnessing the effects of the drug, the Being or Self remaining > intact during the effect of the drug on the nervous system, whatever > that may be. The effect of the drug would be experienced as separated > from the unchanging fullness of Self. From an outward viewpoint of an > observer, Joe may appear to be under the effect of the drug, maybe > some physical or even some mental manifestations but not what we > would characterize as mental illness such as psychosis or paranoia > because of the presence of the drug. > > So my question is this. If a person who has been meditating for most > of their life takes a strong psychotropic drug and experiences a > psychosis such as paranoia, could we assume that this person is not > enlightened? In other words, can the effect of the drug be a measure > of Self, its ability to remain constant even in the presence of the > chemical effects of a drug? If a person becomes psychotic after > consuming lets say for example, strong marijuana, doesn't that mean > that the mental illness to some degree was present even before the > drug was ingested? The drug amplifies what is already present. In the > case of an enlightened person, by definition, there shouldn't be any > pre existing psychosis and therefore no mental illness. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
