--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > "trying doing your sadhana in a brothel" > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I may have found a spiritual path that might suit my > > > > > > nature. > > > > > > > > > > LOL. I wrote parts of my book sitting at the bar of > > > > > Yab Yum, the most famous brothel in Amsterdam. It > > > > > was actually a beautiful room, full of Asian art > > > > > and buddhas and all, but the women didn't hurt, > > > > > either. I liked the basic honesty of the place, and > > > > > the interplay of energies. > > > > > > > > Yeah, there's nothing like the "when am I going to get my > > > > $50.00" honest look of a hooker... > > > > > > That's why it's an honest place, Shemp. It's on a > > > bit of a different level than that. > > > > > > The women themselves are all beautiful (of course), > > > but most are well-educated, and many have careers > > > as consultants or scientists, and do their gig in > > > the evenings at Yab Yum because they want to retire > > > at 30. > > > > I have no problem with either brothels or women freely selling their > > bodies for sexual favors...many marriages are just that anyway. > > > > What I have a problem with is the continuation of the "retire at 30" > > myth because no such thing ever happens for 99.9% of these women: > > > > 1) in order to obtain such a lofty goal, the output they will have > > to go through vis a vis fucking is astronomical; > > > > 2) if they are, indeed, one of the 0.1% able to fuck enough men to > > get enough money to "retire at 30", their brains and body (not to > > even mention their spirit) will be so ruined that there will be > > nothing to enjoy that retirement with. > > > > 3) factor in the fact that this is a legal brothel you are talkihng > > about where all monies, expenses and revenues are tightly and > > strictly controlled and 100% of income they earn is taxed...I invite > > you to show me how any of these women can make enough money to have > > any type of nest egg. > > > > 4) It is demeaning in a very major way to women...and I'm not > > talking about the sex part here; as I said, I'm okay with that...I'm > > referring to the "well, I have to pay my way through college" claim > > or the "I have to feed my children" line we've all heard from both > > strippers and hookers. That's bullshit...if you need money, get off > > your ass (no pun intended) and get a real job because today women > > can compete right there alongside men and, in many cases, do BETTER > > than men. > > > > I work in a profession that in the rare instance a woman enters it > > she will be 10 times better than a man and make 10 times more. It is > > too easy an excuse to say "I'm doing this to retire at 30" or "I am > > forced to do it because I need the money". Total crap and it's just > > an excuse to take the easy way out. > > > > And when I say "easy way out", the hooking business, particularly of > > the kind that you describe, Barry, is a life not spent so much on > > your back as it is spent on your ass watching TV and smoking > > cigarettes waiting for a John to choose you in the line-up with 20 > > other broads. For every 30 minutes you spend with a "trick" you > > spend at least 5 hours in waiting time getting chosen...and very few > > are spending that down-time studying for Surgery 101 or Torts in > > Civil Law. It's a life of do-nothingness and boredom and AVOIDING > > life. > > Someday, Shemp, you should travel again outside the > US and get over your belief that things work in other > places the way they work here. I made a number of > close friendships among the women who worked at Yab > Yum. They got to keep 60% of the $200-500 per hour > "fees," plus tips (which, given the clientele, were > considerable and which, given the Netherlands, are > never reported for taxes). The house makes the bulk > of its money on the champagne that the guests were > obliged to buy for the women. > > This was about 10 years ago. On my last trip to > Amsterdam, I looked up a few of my favorites (I was > kinda their "pet"), and all are now retired, never > again having to work at anything, much less at Yab > Yum. (It doesn't take much of a nest egg to retire > in the Netherlands, given how much is already paid > for by the guvmint.) A couple of them have promised > to visit me in the south of France, since they are > now free to travel. It's not everyone's idea of how > to retire at 30, but at least half a dozen of the > women I knew there have done just that. > > The Netherlands is not America. Keep your American > prudery and assumptions at home where they belong. > They only pollute more sensible countries, not > uplift them. >
Barry: You've got a wonderful imagination and it's always a pleasure to read your stories, real or fiction. Like the claim you once made to me that there are dozens of teachers out there who taught effortless meditation (which I later debunked by actually telephoning one of the places you cited), I suspect your brothel story is largely fiction and here's why: 1) the legalization of brothels is always a contentious public policy issue in ANY country or state in which it occurs. As such, the management and accounting of such places have to be VERY MUCH on the up and up or else they will be targeted for shut down by the government. This is particularly true when it comes to reporting income and taxes. In other words: you can count on them being audited more than liberals during the Nixon Administration. 2) Unlike the US and Canada where tips are voluntary and the reporting of tips is more lax, this is NOT the case in Europe where tips are often mandatory and a part of the bill (such as in restaurants in France). This is decreed by the government for the SOLE reason of taxing this income. 3) Despite your claim that Yum-Yum makes most of its money from champagne (which I don't accept but, for the sake of argument I will), the government of Holland would strictly control the taxing of hooker's tips...not only because they want to get their tax money from it but because the puritan lobby would be down their necks in a second if there was any excuse that a brothel wasn't running on the up and up. 4) The brothel management which, you claim, makes 40% off of prostitution fees in their establishment WOULD NOT -- I REPEAT WOULD NOT -- ever allow themselves to lose 40% of potential revenue from tips. That is why in Nevada brothels any tips provided, by rule, are immediately reported to management so that they can get their cut (50%). And that includes the fair market price of any gifts, such as jewelry. This is so strict a rule that a first time offense is a fireable offense...and the brothels employ fake "johns" to check up on their girls as well. 5) I invite you to perform the Fuck Formula on your above claims. The Fuck Formula, whereby C= A/B: A = how much a hooker needs to retire on; B = how much per trick they earn, less expenses; C = Number of fucks a hooker needs to retire ...and let's see what number you come up with. And then once you come up with it, apply it to Shemp's Special Theory of Hooker Relativity which states that the loss of Shakti is inversely proportional to the number of people you fuck for money. Shemp's Special Theory of Hooker Relativity, whereby D = E/C: D = Loss of Shakti E = Shakti C = (as above) Number of fucks a hooker needs to retire To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
