--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 10/21/06 9:32:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Until a poor person breaks that mind set that > > keeps him down he will always be poor and miserable. > > Nobody can break it for them. They have to do it > > for themselves. You can give the poor a hand out > > or a hand up or all the help you want but until they > > do what they need to do to break out of poverty they > > will remain miserable. > > Actually, far more people have been able to do what > they need to do to break out of poverty because > they've had a hand up (or sometimes just a handout) > than have managed to do so by dint of their own > heroism or good luck. > > I can't disagree with you here at all. I'm not saying don't > help a poor person. You can help them all you want but until > they do something worth *celebrating* they will remain in > poverty and miserable.
Not sure what you include in "worth celebrating." I'd say simply moving into the middle class is worth celebrating. Look at welfare for example. > You can raise generation after generation on welfare but until > somebody decides they are going to finish school and learn a trade > or go on to higher education and develop a valued skill, they will > just be another welfare generation, miserable. Do you not understand that finishing school, learning a trade, or going on to higher education and developing a skill are usually *not possible* for someone on welfare without a handout or a hand up? It's one thing to have the motivation to better oneself; it's quite another to have the *means* to do so. Some few are able to overcome the lack of means, again, through heroic effort or good luck. Most are not. > YOU can't *make* somebody else be happy and productive. Of course not. But you can make it possible for them to make themselves happy and productive. All > any of us can do is help to sustain them and try to coax > them out of their poverty. They have to make the move. One more time: For most, the help has to come first. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
