In a message dated 10/22/06 3:59:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did I say anything in this thread about the causes of poverty? I
did say
> there is a certain mindset that one finds in the impoverished and
until they
> break that mind set no amount of hand outs or hand ups are going
to lift them
> out. And I can guarantee you that you don't understand what I just
said there.>>>

Which shows how weak your guarentees are, since I totally understand
what you said. You said that you do not want to deal with the causes
of poverty, but just want to keep to your chant of "all Libs want is
to give hand-outs"
I was right, you don't understand and never have. Let's start with my original statement. Until the poor do something worth celebrating they will always have misery. We can have a safety net for the poor to keep a roof over their head, clothes on their backs, food on the table. I have no problem with that. I have no problem with providing free or low cost education or training for the poor. But until they are willing to take advantage of these things offered to them to better themselves financially they will always be miserable. Some people just need to discipline themselves to stay in school and get a high school diploma instead of dropping out and hanging with a gang and getting in trouble. Others need to break the cycle of having babies while they are still babies themselves. Being a teenage mother is almost a guarantee of living in poverty for the rest of your life. Some people just need to get off drugs which requires discipline from their side. There can be innumerable reasons why people are in poverty but at least in the United States the opportunities are there for most to take advantage of  to improve themselves but it is going to require some effort and commitment from the impoverished person to get out. That is what I meant by saying until they do something worth *celebrating*. Staying in school, not having babies until they are financially secure, staying out of trouble with the law, getting a job and learning to be dependable and responsible, taking advantage of all the programs available to improve oneself, like learning a trade of value.  
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