--- In [email protected], Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I met Denise when she was on TTC phase I. I fell in love. Once I even went to Keith and asked him to give her a job. That is all I will say on that subject except that now she is married and live in Washington state or oregon. Who are you? >
Just another fan. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:49:38 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory > > Luis, > > Yeah I agree with your analysis of Dennis being more comfortable in > his skin than John. It did make him a better communicator for all of > us. Even though I felt John was in over his head in the job, I think > he was sincere. But then I didn't have him following me around. I > don't know if you closet theory pans out, I never saw him after MIU. > I understand the vib you caught. Who knows. Being effeminate was so > in vogue in the faculty. > > I do remember Rodrick's wild suits (thanks for the name correction) > But forget the dudes, remember Denise who became Nuemi? I knew her in > DC also. Great chick. Coulda destroyed the Purusha hope of half the > movement if she decided to. > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> wrote: > > > > The difference between John and Dennis > > > > There were many people who started what the movement called heavy > unstressing in 1977. Sitting in the LC doing the moring meditation > there would be many sounds of people have major releases. (Sounds > like a pressure cooker popping) Many of these people would have > experiences of bouncing and so forth. > > > > Well many of those people became candidates for the John SHapiro > Graduation program. I became very afraid that maybe I was one of > those. Even one day a girl came up to me and said WOW Louis I am > just like you. When she said it I thought OH BOY! I went to Dennis > and I asked if maybe I was going nuts. > > > > Dennis said no and arranged for me to have a piece of foam in my > room. That night the same girl got carried out in the ambulance. > > For some reason I was on the Dennis Squad and many people who were > having problems passed my way. I was in love with one person HD she > had doen two six month programs and a 3 month extention in 76. I > thought WOW! she must be enligthened. We became close. Then she > lost it. She had gotten fried. EK was another and several other > people MS evem the student gov President William had to deal with him. > He grabbed a governor in H&W and started working through his > sexuality. Anyway John Shapiro seemed very inadequate in working > with these people Dennis was much better. He always tried to work > with people before bringing in John Shapiro because Johns was was send > you to the fairfield mental hospital or send the person home. Dennis > would try talking they even created a program one forrest academy > right after the summer sidhis program of going in the reservoir. > Runnning in the snow all kinds of stuff to normalise the unstressing. > I never did these things but I know > > people who had to. > > > > ANyway Dennis was likeable John was not. I used to think he had an > interesting closet thing going on. > > > > Roger was actually Roderick when he changed his name it was not such > a big deal because he was not very well known at the time. Yet when > he became involved with Student Goverment then he was more visible. I > dont know if you remember him before he went to TTC but he used to use > these suits that he had made while in Korea. Yellow, Pink light blue > you name it. With big platform shoes, he was not the conformist type. > > > > I dont know what it was about the Christian converts but many of > them always ended up in the same place. Most recently a friend named > Trevor became born again in 95 or 96 something like that. By 96 he > had stopped meditating. Then in 2001 9/11 his office looked right at > the world trade center from Hoboken he saw everything as it happened. > By 2002 he was fired from his job and had some sort of breakdown. > For him this was IMPOSSIBLE Trevor was alway level headed cool calm > and collected. > > > > I always lived in fear that maybe I was going to bug. Yet to this > point I have not. I could have been thought totally nuts but some > people with some of the experiences I was having but. Only once did I > have a problem. My buddy in Forrest academy was William Jones. I had > a great desire to punch him. I knew that something must have been > wrong, so I went to Dennis and said I think I am going to have a > violent our burst. Dennis just said try to handle it on your own, > before bringing it to me because you will not be able to go on the > sidhis course. > > > > I masturbated and ate peanut butter. I remember sitting next to > William looking in his eyes the way he liked to do and saying "You > know I feel like punching you in the face." He knew something was > wrong he just said go ahead. I guess if I ever had best friends it > would have had to have been WIlliam and Trevor. > > > > The nuts cases at MIU always thought that I was going to give the > Sidhis to them. I NEVER DID. WIlliam got his sidhis in Israel and > Trevor got his in Columbia. If you ever see the graduation video of > the first summer sidhi program you will see me riinging the bell of > invincibility like it was the bell of life. Because I had to go > through a bunch to get the sidhis. > > > > > > > > > > > > yu riginal Message ---- > > From: shempmcgurk <shempmcgurk@ ...> > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:08:01 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I can imagine how weird it would have been if you were doing > > > unauthorized, and un paid for, flying Louis! I had some experience > > > with National when I taught at the DC center that lead me to > > believe > > > that being black in the movement was no picnic. The air of > > suspicion > > > was real. Remember when Roger Moore became Kaufi Tegamunga? The > > name > > > changing really shook up the higher ups I'll bet! > > > > > > I always thought John was put in a bad position because many people > > > needed counseling but he was so restricted with mixed messages from > > > the movement about his profession. He must have always been > > walking on > > > eggshells with the higher ups. TM was supposed to solve all > > problems, > > > but what do you do if it doesn't? > > > > > > Remember Pavlik? He had his breakdown having lunch with me. > > (causal?) > > > He had taken a few blocks of sidhis and felt like he was losing > > his > > > mind, and wanted to meet for lunch to talk about it. He went > > > completely mad in front of me. I dragged him physically to John's > > > office. John seemed terrified. Pavlik was totally out of it and > > > needed medication. Maybe his professional experience gave John an > > > insight into what was possible from a person in this state, Pavlik > > was > > > a pretty big guy, or maybe it was all out of John's league. But he > > was > > > the only guy on campus in that position. I remember feeling like > > the > > > situation was out of control, and no one was able to help Pavlik or > > > knew how to manage the situation. John was using me to control > > > Pavlik. I don't think I was really the right guy for the job! They > > > shipped him off to a hospital. His life took more tragic turns > > after > > > that. He was banned from campus and started the downward spiral of > > > homelessness and incarceration. That is a tough age group for > > > breakdowns. I don't know if it was any different at MIU from any > > > other college. I do know that people who needed help were > > threatened > > > with being denied courses if they sought psychological help. I > > hope > > > they have corrected this flaw since the student got stabbed. I > > wonder > > > what happened to John? > > > > Sounds like Shapiro at least handled it better than the chumps who > > handled Shuvender Sem...at least Pavlik didn't kill anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > John SHapiro was a nut case. He was the school psychologist. > > I > > > was being watched because I was flying before the course, and in > > order > > > to be on the course I had to agree not to fly until I got the > > > technique. Also I had a good friend who was working on staff and > > some > > > had the fear that I might give him the sidhis. Being the only > > Black > > > on the course had its disavantages. Give example one day I saw > > John > > > following me. I thought maybe I may have been imagining, the day > > > before I had eaten in the blue room. So I went in and waited at the > > > door and when he put his face to the window too look in I put mind > > to > > > the other side or opened the door and said YES! > > > > > > > > They had a guy named Mark Tomacci (SP?) come and stand outside my > > > door to see if I was flying. Just so happened that when I > > meditated > > > I could sometimes see things that I could not see when not > > meditating > > > so I called Mark by name and asked why he was standing outside my > > door. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > From: authfriend <jstein@> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:32:43 AM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" > > Theory > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Coming from the old days the most crazy experience > > > > > I had with Christians was when they had infiltrated > > > > > our sidhis program. There was a guy Kevin Miller, > > > > > he did the whole summer program when at the end he > > > > > comes to me and starts talking very crazy. Trying > > > > > to convert me to Jesus. Also telling me all kinds > > > > > of things about Maharishi blah blah blah.. There > > > > > was some minister in town who was converting people. > > > > > Kevin had been a plant. WOW! I called Dennis. > > > > > They talked to him and soon after he left. I could > > > > > not believe that someone would have stayed the whole > > > > > summer and then betrayed the whole system like that. > > > > > > > > Very highly motivated? > > > > > > > > Are you sure he was a plant from the start, or could > > > > someone from the outside have gotten to him while he > > > > was doing the summer program? > > > > > > > > > Then I thought John Shapiro was too busy watching me > > > > > and not paying attention to people like Kevin this > > > > > is how these things happened. > > > > > > > > Why was he watching you? (I don't know who John > > > > Shapiro is.) > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > From: authfriend <jstein@> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:44:04 AM > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" > > Theory > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, TurquoiseB > > <no_reply@ .> > > > > wrote: > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > Very few religions or spiritual groups could be more > > > > > > characterized as "jealous religions" than the Christian > > > > > > fundies. They feel *threatened* a lot. People who can > > > > > > think for themselves threaten them. People who are > > > > > > open to other spiritual traditions threaten them. So > > > > > > "like attracted like." When TM began to make inroads > > > > > > into their numbers, they became even *more* jealous, > > > > > > and decided to fight the TMO. > > > > > > > > > > I don't think TM has ever made any "inroads" > > > > > into the number of Christian fundies. Some > > > > > young people who had been brought up fundie > > > > > and had rebelled and gone their own way as > > > > > they got older may eventually have gravitated > > > > > to TM, but they were already irrevocably lost > > > > > to the fundies. > > > > > > > > > > I suspect you'd find there are far more people > > > > > who used to be TMers who have become fundies > > > > > than vice-versa. > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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