--- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk" 
> > <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "shempmcgurk"
> > > > <shempmcgurk@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings
> > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lets see if DIXON and SHEMP can deal with one single 
issue 
> > and
> > > > > stick
> > > > > > to that issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mexican farmers and US farm subsidies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > US (and European) goverment subsidises its farmers such 
> that
> > > > > > bankruptcy is avoided by their farmers. Without these 
> > subsidies
> > > > > the
> > > > > > US farmers would have a hard time to compete with other
> > > > countries.
> > > > > > The US makes a vast fortune in arms sales around the 
world 
> > and
> > > > > other
> > > > > > dubious business. These subsidies mean that a Mexican 
> farmer
> > > > > cannot
> > > > > > compete so he cannot afford to hire farm hands, so the 
> > workers
> > > > go
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the US (illegally) to work and gain from the US 
subsidies. 
> > The
> > > > > > Mexican farmer cannot compete. The US farmer gets cheap, 
> > > illegal
> > > > > > labor, and the right-wingers in this country try to 
build 
> a 
> > > joke
> > > > > > fence to stop them coming in. The US continues to make 
> money
> > > > from
> > > > > > oil companies, selling arms, and racking up a massive 
debt 
> > > which
> > > > > > stands today at:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $8,553,293,703,6000.05
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://brillig.com/debt_clock/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thus, through these dubious methods of funding its 
> farmers, 
> > the
> > > > US
> > > > > > contributes directly to keeping the poor, poor, and the 
> > Mexican
> > > > > > economy subserviant to US control at a low economic 
level.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One instance where the US makes others stay poor (very 
bad 
> > > karma
> > > > > for
> > > > > > US), and I am looking forward to watch MDIXON and 
Shemp's 
> > usual
> > > > > > avoidance of the issues, changing the subject, slinging 
> names
> > > > > > around, and cutting and running. It is like watching 
> Laurel 
> > and
> > > > > > Hardy build a house.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OffWorld
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <<<How can I avoid it.
> > > > I've already discussed this issue with you at least once 
> > (Indeed,I
> > > > think I may have been the one to bring it up!) and I totally 
> > agree
> > > > with you.
> > > > Everyone on this forum knows that I am an advocate of both 
free
> > > > markets and globalization...AND minimum government 
> interference 
> > in
> > > > markets.
> > > > Government subsidies to US farmers are horrible 
interferences 
> in 
> > > the
> > > > marketplace and do all the things that you cite above and 
> should
> > > > be stopped.
> > > > Indeed, before I ever met you on this forum, I was against 
> them.
> > > > Here I am talking about them on a.m.t. as far back as '03 as 
> well
> > > > as posting articles opposing them (do a word search 
> > on "subsidies"
> > > > or "subsidy" once you get to these links)>>>
> > > > 
> > > > ROTFL !
> > > > 
> > > > Then you now agree that it is not just hard work on their 
part 
> > that
> > > > gets people out of poverty. You are stating that they are 
> being 
> > > held
> > > > down by quote "horrible interferences".
> > > > 
> > > > You just lost the other argument that you said you had won 
> > (twice)
> > > > 
> > > > (Looks like MDIXON is on his own over the "Poor people can 
> just 
> > > work
> > > > their way out of poverty" argument.)
> > > > 
> > > > OffWorld
> > > > 
> > > > Ouch...thats gotta hurt Shempgurk.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Haven't you posted this same thing about 5 times now?>>>
> > 
> > 5 times no response from you means you lost.
> > BWA HAHA HAh hahhahhahhHHHAAA......
> > 
> > OffWorld
> >
> 
> 
> Enjoy your laugh (you need the stress release) but look back at 
the 
> archives because I did respond.>>


Yes the archives clearly show that you contradicted yourself and got 
backed into a corner, and MDIXON did not respond because he saw that 
he was now entirely alone in his argument on this board. So after 
spewing a lot of anger and animosity at me, you and MDIXON were 
hoping by ignoring it you would avoid the embarrasment at your own 
contradictions and inadequate rationale. It is a very clear trend 
for you and MDIXON, as many others here have noted many times.

OffWorld





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