I am not a rah rah type never have been. I have been known to make jokes like.
 
I wonder how a person like Maharishi goes to the bathroom.  Does he get it all out in one fell swoop or does he have a hard time.  Having lived in the west so long does he still use his left hand or is he now ambidextrous.
 
I have been known for this kinds of humor.  Also I always distinguish between what is the movement and what is Maharishi but to put Maharishi down been known to do that too.  Especially in regard to his treatement of another favored Guru type.   THen I got to see things from another perspective.  

----- Original Message ----
From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 7:31:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A theory of Karma, TMOers, and the TMO's "Persona"

--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Well Guys what does one get from MMY Bashing. Is there some
thrill in it?

No, release of stress.

It's also an affirmation of MMY's own teaching. TM is supposed to
be a cult or a guru/disciple path or a bakti path.

Indeed, I contend that those who make it such are off the program.

Having said that, I hope I myself do not come across on this forum
as too much of an MMY-basher because that's not my intention. I've
been doing TM twice a day for the better part of 33 years and think
it's the best thing since sliced bread. But I think it's much more
healthy for both my own psychology and the health of the TMO when
well-deserved and much-needed introspection and critical analysis of
the TMO and MMY's policies and decisions are actually talked about,
discussed, and debated.

I actually think that this forum may be the only such venue for this
around (amt is too full of other discussions) . Indeed, I consider
it a good work on Rick's part (a "mitzvah" if you will) for starting
this group.

>
> Figure if you have time to MMY bash that means you are not doing
all you can do to benefit from any of the things anyway. So maybe
there is a nother consciousness at hand. In the world especially US
there are many people who are born cryers. If they dont see where
they are getting their satisfaction they cry fraud.
>
> I had a good friend he built a company that sold water
purification multilevel. The US Gov. too him and his compnay down
because some people who jumped in jumped in with all they had plus
in order to get RICH. WHen they found things weren't quite like
they were told they decided to sue.
>
> Basically there are many people like me who have read the GITA a
zillion times because MMY said that each time you read chapter 2 it
brings you closer to CC. Nice line of Bullshit.
>
> But maybe it was not complete BS. The thing is TM has value
meditation is valuable. So maybe there is more to do. Well look
at all the more that has come about in the last 30 years. maybe it
is better to take the value and do what you need to do than to sit
around wasting time complaining? ??????= Nothing better to do??? OH
BOY!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:29:32 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A theory of Karma, TMOers, and the
TMO's "Persona"
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Vaj <vajranatha@ ...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Oct 27, 2006, at 1:46 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
> >
> > > Geez, really hard to say. Rather I think it is a case of
trying to
> > > explain the enigma that Maharishi appears to be to so many, in
a not
> > > very positive way. I do get the sense that Vaj indulges in a
far
> > > amount of Maharishi and TM bashing 'off camera'.
> >
> >
> > No, it was merely a counterpoint, an "all possibilities" POV to
New
> > Morn's rosy romanticism and the rose-colors glasses he seems to
wear
> > much of the time.
> >
> > For example, how do you ignore that the era of good times of New
> > Morn's first phase also corresponded to his Spiritual Incest
phase? I
> > don't know, but it received not a mention. Bizarre.
> >
>
> perhaps because New Morning never saw it and chooses not to assume
that hearsay is true?
>



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