--- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My main pt on this issue though is really just an emotional reaction
> to the emerging groupthing here that all our individual problems and
> even kali yuga itself are on the way out because of some pundit boys
> moving to the US

I must have missed those posts. I don't see anyone on FFL, much less a
group feeding on each other, who claim the above.  Even the TMO
party-line / propoganda isn't quite as bold as the above, IMO. And no
one here appears to be proclaiming that. Except perhaps the repost
from another list of the Roses piece. (which I found nice, though a
bit flowerly.)

You, Barry and others, appear to me to be imagining some phantom posts
and reacting to them. 

Or perhaps you equate those expressing some happiness that the pundits
have come as being movement syncophants/mouthpieces of its party-line.
If so, thats quite false leap of logic. 

I am happy the pundits have come. And that 1000 may actually show up.
Aren't you? I don't know what the global effect of 1000 pundits or
2000 YF's is. I am skeptical, yet open. I look at the evidence -- and
am following the financial market impacts. it will be some time before
any substantive claims could ever be made. 

A large ME effect has nothing to do with my modest expressions of
happiness.  My happiness comes from extrapolating my experience in
flying in large groups. "Small ones" 500 or so, at that. I didn't go
to Utopia and all in really BIG groups. But my experience, and
everyone I have ever talked to, always sys that the atmosphere and
inner vibe is fantastic from such. Is that not your experience? 

And I have attended a number of yagyas, homas, etc. From just ONE
pundit, the atmosphere is wonderful, intense at times, IME. 1000
pundits doing yagya would be awesome. 

So having  1000 pundits and 2000 YF's in FF I am sure is a good thing.
 I think Masses are a good thing. I think muslims bowing and praying 5
times a day is a good thing. All have some good effect. Why anyone
would dis such is beyond me. 

And FF with  1000 pundits and  2000 YF's  I imagine would be very
cool. I would be tempted to visit or move back. 

Global effects, smobal effects. What does it matter, if a knock your
socks off atmosphere is created in FF. 

Time will tell if there is no discernable, some little, or possible
some substantial global effect from a sustained, multi-year project of
  1000 pundits or 2000 YF's . That will unfold as it does. But does
that uncertainty diminish or effect the great vibe that is being
created locally?



 

 -- people can believe in their vedic civilization
> revival if they want but I bet many of them have spent much of their
> lives in similar games of magical thinking and denial.
>





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