I was a nut case and got the sidhis the second time I applied. It was good because I started the advanced techniques instead. Liked them better eventually.
----- Original Message ----- From: "paul moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory > --- In [email protected], Louis McKenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> The difference between John and Dennis >> >> There were many people who started what the movement called heavy >> unstressing in > 1977. Sitting in the LC doing the moring meditation there would be many > sounds of > people have major releases. (Sounds like a pressure cooker popping) Many > of these > people would have experiences of bouncing and so forth. >> >> Well many of those people became candidates for the John SHapiro >> Graduation program. > I became very afraid that maybe I was one of those. Even one day a girl > came up to me > and said WOW Louis I am just like you. When she said it I thought OH BOY! > I went to > Dennis and I asked if maybe I was going nuts. >> >> Dennis said no and arranged for me to have a piece of foam in my room. >> That night > the same girl got carried out in the ambulance. >> For some reason I was on the Dennis Squad and many people who were having > problems passed my way. I was in love with one person HD she had doen two > six month > programs and a 3 month extention in 76. I thought WOW! she must be > enligthened. We > became close. Then she lost it. She had gotten fried. EK was another > and several other > people MS evem the student gov President William had to deal with him. > He grabbed a > governor in H&W and started working through his sexuality. Anyway John > Shapiro > seemed very inadequate in working with these people Dennis was much > better. He always > tried to work with people before bringing in John Shapiro because Johns > was was send you > to the fairfield mental hospital or send the person home. Dennis would > try talking they > even created a program one forrest academy right after the summer sidhis > program of > going in the reservoir. Runnning in the snow all kinds of stuff to > normalise the > unstressing. I never did these things but I know >> people who had to. >> >> ANyway Dennis was likeable John was not. I used to think he had an >> interesting closet > thing going on. >> >> Roger was actually Roderick when he changed his name it was not such a >> big deal > because he was not very well known at the time. Yet when he became > involved with > Student Goverment then he was more visible. I dont know if you remember > him before he > went to TTC but he used to use these suits that he had made while in > Korea. Yellow, Pink > light blue you name it. With big platform shoes, he was not the > conformist type. >> >> I dont know what it was about the Christian converts but many of them >> always ended up > in the same place. Most recently a friend named Trevor became born again > in 95 or 96 > something like that. By 96 he had stopped meditating. Then in 2001 9/11 > his office > looked right at the world trade center from Hoboken he saw everything as > it happened. > By 2002 he was fired from his job and had some sort of breakdown. For > him this was > IMPOSSIBLE Trevor was alway level headed cool calm and collected. >> >> I always lived in fear that maybe I was going to bug. Yet to this point >> I have not. I > could have been thought totally nuts but some people with some of the > experiences I was > having but. Only once did I have a problem. My buddy in Forrest academy > was William > Jones. I had a great desire to punch him. I knew that something must > have been wrong, > so I went to Dennis and said I think I am going to have a violent our > burst. Dennis just > said try to handle it on your own, before bringing it to me because you > will not be able to > go on the sidhis course. >> >> I masturbated and ate peanut butter. I remember sitting next to William >> looking in his > eyes the way he liked to do and saying "You know I feel like punching you > in the face." He > knew something was wrong he just said go ahead. I guess if I ever had > best friends it > would have had to have been WIlliam and Trevor. >> >> The nuts cases at MIU always thought that I was going to give the Sidhis >> to them. I > NEVER DID. WIlliam got his sidhis in Israel and Trevor got his in > Columbia. If you ever > see the graduation video of the first summer sidhi program you will see me > riinging the > bell of invincibility like it was the bell of life. Because I had to go > through a bunch to get > the sidhis. >> >> >> >> >> >> yu riginal Message ---- >> From: shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:08:01 PM >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" Theory >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, "curtisdeltablues" >> <curtisdeltablues@ ...> wrote: >> > >> > I can imagine how weird it would have been if you were doing >> > unauthorized, and un paid for, flying Louis! I had some experience >> > with National when I taught at the DC center that lead me to >> believe >> > that being black in the movement was no picnic. The air of >> suspicion >> > was real. Remember when Roger Moore became Kaufi Tegamunga? The >> name >> > changing really shook up the higher ups I'll bet! >> > >> > I always thought John was put in a bad position because many people >> > needed counseling but he was so restricted with mixed messages from >> > the movement about his profession. He must have always been >> walking on >> > eggshells with the higher ups. TM was supposed to solve all >> problems, >> > but what do you do if it doesn't? >> > >> > Remember Pavlik? He had his breakdown having lunch with me. >> (causal?) >> > He had taken a few blocks of sidhis and felt like he was losing >> his >> > mind, and wanted to meet for lunch to talk about it. He went >> > completely mad in front of me. I dragged him physically to John's >> > office. John seemed terrified. Pavlik was totally out of it and >> > needed medication. Maybe his professional experience gave John an >> > insight into what was possible from a person in this state, Pavlik >> was >> > a pretty big guy, or maybe it was all out of John's league. But he >> was >> > the only guy on campus in that position. I remember feeling like >> the >> > situation was out of control, and no one was able to help Pavlik or >> > knew how to manage the situation. John was using me to control >> > Pavlik. I don't think I was really the right guy for the job! They >> > shipped him off to a hospital. His life took more tragic turns >> after >> > that. He was banned from campus and started the downward spiral of >> > homelessness and incarceration. That is a tough age group for >> > breakdowns. I don't know if it was any different at MIU from any >> > other college. I do know that people who needed help were >> threatened >> > with being denied courses if they sought psychological help. I >> hope >> > they have corrected this flaw since the student got stabbed. I >> wonder >> > what happened to John? >> >> Sounds like Shapiro at least handled it better than the chumps who >> handled Shuvender Sem...at least Pavlik didn't kill anyone. >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > John SHapiro was a nut case. He was the school psychologist. >> I >> > was being watched because I was flying before the course, and in >> order >> > to be on the course I had to agree not to fly until I got the >> > technique. Also I had a good friend who was working on staff and >> some >> > had the fear that I might give him the sidhis. Being the only >> Black >> > on the course had its disavantages. Give example one day I saw >> John >> > following me. I thought maybe I may have been imagining, the day >> > before I had eaten in the blue room. So I went in and waited at the >> > door and when he put his face to the window too look in I put mind >> to >> > the other side or opened the door and said YES! >> > > >> > > They had a guy named Mark Tomacci (SP?) come and stand outside my >> > door to see if I was flying. Just so happened that when I >> meditated >> > I could sometimes see things that I could not see when not >> meditating >> > so I called Mark by name and asked why he was standing outside my >> door. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ---- >> > > From: authfriend <jstein@> >> > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com >> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:32:43 AM >> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" >> Theory >> > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Louis McKenzie <ltm457@> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Coming from the old days the most crazy experience >> > > > I had with Christians was when they had infiltrated >> > > > our sidhis program. There was a guy Kevin Miller, >> > > > he did the whole summer program when at the end he >> > > > comes to me and starts talking very crazy. Trying >> > > > to convert me to Jesus. Also telling me all kinds >> > > > of things about Maharishi blah blah blah.. There >> > > > was some minister in town who was converting people. >> > > > Kevin had been a plant. WOW! I called Dennis. >> > > > They talked to him and soon after he left. I could >> > > > not believe that someone would have stayed the whole >> > > > summer and then betrayed the whole system like that. >> > > >> > > Very highly motivated? >> > > >> > > Are you sure he was a plant from the start, or could >> > > someone from the outside have gotten to him while he >> > > was doing the summer program? >> > > >> > > > Then I thought John Shapiro was too busy watching me >> > > > and not paying attention to people like Kevin this >> > > > is how these things happened. >> > > >> > > Why was he watching you? (I don't know who John >> > > Shapiro is.) >> > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> > > > From: authfriend <jstein@> >> > > > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com >> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 11:44:04 AM >> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Karmic "Like Attracts Like" >> Theory >> > > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, TurquoiseB >> <no_reply@ .> >> > > wrote: >> > > > <snip> >> > > > > Very few religions or spiritual groups could be more >> > > > > characterized as "jealous religions" than the Christian >> > > > > fundies. They feel *threatened* a lot. People who can >> > > > > think for themselves threaten them. People who are >> > > > > open to other spiritual traditions threaten them. So >> > > > > "like attracted like." When TM began to make inroads >> > > > > into their numbers, they became even *more* jealous, >> > > > > and decided to fight the TMO. >> > > > >> > > > I don't think TM has ever made any "inroads" >> > > > into the number of Christian fundies. Some >> > > > young people who had been brought up fundie >> > > > and had rebelled and gone their own way as >> > > > they got older may eventually have gravitated >> > > > to TM, but they were already irrevocably lost >> > > > to the fundies. >> > > > >> > > > I suspect you'd find there are far more people >> > > > who used to be TMers who have become fundies >> > > > than vice-versa. >> > > <snip> >> > > >> > >> > I was in the pod with kevin miller and I don't think he was a plant..we > also had a guy who > lived on just wheat grass.. we were left alone out by the train tracks..I > don't think dennis r > ever looked in.. then it all changed. > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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