endless lines of personal arguments and insults...
Doug Do you want to perhaps start a different yahoo group where the topics can be limited and we can a) warn b) boot people off? I would be happy to be a co-moderator along with you. I know that I can't stand FFLife any longer, Patrick Gillam has given up, as have many others. Lemme know, and we can give it a close name, write a Charter that will include (limit) off-topics and endless lines of personal arguments and insults. . o Hi No, not yet. I want to wrastle some with Rick to write a FFL charter as you say, towards limiting the endless lines of personal off topic arguments and insults. Part of the real power of FFL is its archive now. It is quite sobering when people do look at that index to FFL. We just talked to another person here yesterday who is unable to reconcile how it has gone with the TMmovement but is starting herself and her family to question how it is and come out. The FFL archive as it is becomes quite helpful when people get to that point. i miss having you around here. But i hope it is going well for you out there making a last ditch run at security and retirement while you can .. I used you recently as an good example for a friend of ours who after 15 years of teaching at the MSAE lower school was roundly laid- off, spun out and dismissed with essentially nothing to show for a career in the TM-org., at the start of this school year. She is in fact a super early education teacher and raised many of our children here, she is on the streets like several others from MUM and MSAE, no resources or safety net of health insurance & nothing retirement. Of course not we say when 50% of the operating budgets are skimmed and sent 'offshore'. The archive to FFL becomes quite useful in helping people through at these times. Rick could actually close the posting to FFL and what is in the archive will serve its purpose. It would be best if he would just drop that phrase out of the list description that 'anything goes'. The FFL list community would better take care of itself with just that. -Doug in FF --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "wayback71" <wayback71@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > ...based on the first 1.5 days of November: > > > > > > Total posts: 323 > > > > > > sparaig: 71 > > > shempmcgurk: 44 > > > authfriend: 42 > > > > > > Almost *half* the total output of the forum... > > > > > > Whole *pages* in Message View that consist > > > of nothing but sparaig, shemp, and Judy > > > arguing with each other, and with MDixon... > > > > > > It's going to be a long, long winter... > > > > > Frankly, I think they should set up their own chat room. > > >They all have some good things > > to offer, but no one seems able to get them to turn down the > quantity, despite repeated > > requests. > > > ...Yes, FFL posts have become mostly personal reply stuff that ought > to go off to the side between them, as the FFL guidelines do > suggest. These folks seem to now hold the platform and the thrill > of performing on it. Unrestrained or having other purposes > evidently. > > I run in to a lot of people here in FF who simply no longer > regularly read FFL or participate in FFL much any more because of > this overly-large volume of off-topic stuff burying the list. For > instance, like with this recent John Kerry 'was right' thread, it > had no point of referal to FF or FFL or the TM.org meditating > community and from the first post was simply a personal exchange > that went on and on. Yes, they have succeeded in off-ing the list > to their own mostly. Stuff like that could be read on the CNN or > FOX news lists. > > Rick, it could help a lot by tightening the language of the FFL > subject description, taking it back from 'anything goes'. That > would give the list back its community purpose that could guide the > FFL community of it. Right now it is without guide here as these > people prove that anything subject goes and they dump it here in FFL. > > This FFL list originally was started to be an open forum discussion > that could be used about FF and FFL, an open forum by contrast with > the TM-org where their hold of 'open' discussion is tightly produced > and controlled in their ways to their end. > > In the community of the TM-org, FFL was unique in that the > discussion could be open to discernment. Because of this internet > form of e-groups which came along, FFL was a fresh breeze for the > meditating community here as it came along and FFL has been a breeze > which has been very helpful to a lot of people as they have looked > at the TM-org and their participation with it. > > In FF, FFL has been incredibly useful because the discernment of > things TM-org can be instant and public here. > > Rick, it would be extremely helpful now to the list here as FFL to > drop the 'anything goes' language from the list description and the > guidelines. Just keep the rest of the list description as is if you > like. Droppping the 'anything goes' language then people can self- > edit and self-govern the list as there is something to write to, and > not just 'anything goes'. The bylaw as you have it written is > untenable and is just running the list down. > > With Kind Regards from FF, > > -Doug > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
