--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>e *some* payoff for all that boredom.
> > >
> > > Don't suppose it could have anything to do with
> > > benefits from doing program, could it?
> > 
> > You really think
> --- In [email protected], Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 5, 2006, at 4:54 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > 
> > >> Yep, and one wonders what it is--I would guess some kind of
> > >> security.  Gotta b they get more benefits than those of us who
do it 
> and 
> > aren't on it, Judy?  I just don't see any evidence of that.  
> Between 
> > sickness, crying jags that last for weeks, supposedly, and 
> constant 
> > pleas to their friends for $$, I'd say they probably get less.
> > 
> > Sal
> >
> 
> Its interesting, this phenomenon where people in groups dedicated to 
> TM, meditating and turning inward, lose their energy, get depressed, 
> and become less successful.
> 
> My experience is that TM is a victim of its own efficiency in this 
> regard. As a very efficient technique for transcending, use of the 
> TM technique leads quickly and reliably to a direct experience of 
> the Self, the impersonal infinite foundation to life. With this 
> emphasis on TM, those on MD and THP confront what I call the 'charm 
> war' very quickly. This charm war manifests itself as no less than 
> the battle to the death between the self, who we are accustomed to 
> being, and the Self. Each is dedicated to killing the other.
> 
> Anyone having a long-term interest in spiritual pursuits builds up 
> in waking state a number of stories regarding Self-realization or 
> enlightenment, what enlightened life is like, how to act, what to 
> do, etc. Unfortunately for such stories, TM efficiently provides the 
> direct experience.
> 
> I recall facing this disconnect between what I was hearing, 
> believing and most importantly interpreting about enlightened life, 
> and my direct experience of the Self. I was literally at war with 
> myself, making ever more complex stories to justify myself on the 
> one hand, and my experience of my Self during TM. I became stiff, 
> angry and depressed.
> 
> Only when I began feeling what was going on and taking many many 
> careful chances to break out of this inadvertent trap did I regain 
> the limitless energy provided by TM. Until that occurs, these folks 
> on MD and THP will remain at war with themselves, suffering from 
> depression and lack of success.
>

II 48

yogasthaH kuru karmaaNi (accusative *plural*: actions)
sangaM tyaktvaa dhanañjaya 
siddhy-asiddhyoH samo bhuutvaa 
**samatvaM yoga ucyate**

Just for fun, samatvam (sameness): balance of mind (Maharishi)
But "also": same-you, you are the same as your Self? :D
(Tat *tvam* asi)





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