--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "shukra69" <stephen4359@> wrote:
> >
> > The current planetary changes would be bad for America as shown by the
> > highly respected Grimes America chart. The urgency of creating a group
> > is to counter that. Maharshi doesn't need Jyotish himself to be aware
> > of that danger.
> > 
> 
> A quick look at the grimes chart. USA has cancer ascendant. Thus, if 
> jyotish actually does provide  karmic maps, timing mechansims and
> cosmic clocks, if it has some validity, simplictically then, jupiter
> (spiritual, afflunece)  just moved into 5th house (luck (fruition of
> good past karma), auspicious), right on top of natal jupiter -- a good
> thing.

Jupiter in the situation described aspecting as mulatrikona ruler of
the 6th for Cancer ascendant will cause conflict and injuries in Kaliyuga.
 
> 
> Rahu (structure, sudden changes) is now in 9th, but will on Nov 8th --
> the day after the election -- will transit to 8th (sickness, death),
> right on top of natal Sun (leadership), and aspected by transiting
> Saturn.   
> 
> And Mars (war, blood) will move to 5th house on top of natal Mars,
> along with transit jupiter on top of natal jupiter.   
> 
> And Saturn just moved into second house (speech), Leo, but from Jan
> -July 07 will retrograde (amplified effects) back to first house.
> (Sorry Alex Sade Sati is not fully over.)
> 
> Amonst other interpretions, this could signify sudden change of
> leadership, "death" of current leadership, influence of working class
> (Dems), and some undertones of death and destruction and or a sterness
> perhaps retribution for past ways -- leading to greater affluence and
> moral values. And a fortuitous change in the war. Stern, perhaps
> retrobutive influences of leadership. As well as outspokenness of
> working class (Dems). Perhaps house hearings.
> 
> Other interpretions possible -- each house and planet have many
> characteristics. These are the ones that pop out at me. Again, this is
> a quick glanced by a less than stellar (pun) off and on jyotish
hobbyist.
> 
> I am not sure I fully see what shukra is refering to as danger. More a
>  danger/opportunity/transition sense is what I get from the chart.
> Perhaps the danger is sudden change in leadership could be very
> abrupt, disruptive and involving some deaths. 
> 
> But I am not looking at all factors -- just a few biggies. But from my
> view, per this ascendant (I think TMO uses another one) its a good
> time have initiated IA and pundit projects -- substantal good things
> could unfold quickly over the next year. A tippping point perhaps,
> that could go either way. Danger/opportunity.
>





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