--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "llundrub" <llundrub@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > > That was me that said that...faster to a clean, untwisted 
nervous 
> > > > system, capable of sustaining experiences of higher 
consciousness, 
> > > > even enlightenment if the person is interested.
> > > 
> > > ---And this enlightenment would do what exactly?
> > >
> > It is completely different for each person. The key thing is to 
have 
> > the desire for enlightenment for its fulfillment.
> >
> 
> Interesting. Seems to me that this is couner to what MMY says 
about TM and enlightenment. 
> There is no goal during meditation,

Yes, I meant the goal some hold in their hearts for enlightenment, 
not during meditation (TM). The practice of TM is a mechanical 
process.
 
 and meditation for householders is for fulfillment of both 
> inner and outer values. Not to mention that CC, at least, is 
inevitable if you meditate regularly 
> for a long enough period, and lead an otherwise-healthy lifestyle.
>
I don't understand what that means. CC is only partial 
enlightenment, and in my experience not the fulfillment of both 
inner and outer values. Enlightenment to me means the full 
integration of inner and outer values, the complete and total 
experience and blending of both the absolute silent immovable 
reality with the ever changing time and space relative reality. That 
is the experience of enlightenment for me. 




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