I found that an interesting discussion -- and look forward to the
"agreement".

Judy, from the discussion, it seems that a motive for some, perhaps
many, of your posts is to set the record straight regarding factual
errors, unfounded claim, inconistencies with past statements, logical
errors, etc. Posts of that nature, I find useful at times, good
catches I had missed. Or sometimes its more info than I wanted and I
can easily skip such.

What becomes grating, and is when I, and I assume others, tune-out,
are posts that go beyond the correction of a statement and turn into
character attacks, insults, snide remarks, charges of derogatory
motivations, etc.

Its one thing to say, "xyz made a factual error here" Then cite your
source for the correction. Same for logical error. "xyz appears to
have made a logical error here. B does not follow from A. Unless I am
perhaps missing something, perhaps he is assuming something I am not."

It is quite another thing to call another a liar, dishonest,
attempting to deceive, stupid, etc. There is no need to do the latter
to correct the record.* 

And by going beyond correcting a statment, to character insults, etc,
many tune out, so the correction of the record, your goal, may be lost
on many.

I see the reasoning to correct the record for incorrect statements,
logic, etc, each time they are made --- if one is so inclined to do
so. I fail to see the reason for such repetition if one decides the
necessity to pounce on character issues. If a person is a liar, and
you have pronounced that, and they still are a liar, there is no need
to repeat that. The point has been made.

The reason I address you specifically, is that when a reasonable point
is raised, you have a good mind and will, it appears, consider it in a
reasoned way. And you have stated that correcting the record is a
motive for you. I am not sure it is for (all) others.** Others,
equally guilty of often going down the character road IMO, may not
have the same "correct the record" motives that you do.


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*And for many reasons brought up in prior posts, its really quite
difficult to make such acusations with much certainty. 

**For me, my primary motivation is to explore something that seems
interesting but soemthing seems to lay beflow the surface, I write out
a response to clarify the deeper, submerged issues in my own mind. And
post it to see if others see the same submerged things. Or see it
another way.




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