--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> <snip>
> > As an aside, to me, saying that another's post "has a logical
> > fallacy", while meaning the same, per your usage, as "the poster is
> > intellectually dishonest", it is far less inflamatory. And less 
> likely
> > to raise hackles, set off flame wars, IMO. To the extent that all of
> > us can use the least inflamatory words possible, and still get our
> > points across, could help greatly in the effort to enable FFL to 
> > turn the cornor towards its more spakling past.
> 
> Yeah, but intellectual dishonesty isn't always so
> clear-cut as just a logical fallacy.  And in this
> case, it was used in service of a gratuitous insult.

So two wrongs make a right? In that i consider "intellectual
dishonesty" an insult. And IMO, perhaps its use a bit lazy, since
other less inflamatory forms of the same message could be constructed
and conveyed. And would have perhaps avoided the long, range war, we
just witnessed.
 
> I don't think you're going to get very far by
> advocating turning the other cheek here. 

Well, I hope I make some headway in help people to "not take the
bait". Since doing so is childish and demeans them -- in many cases.

> But if
> you can stop the gratuitous insults, you'll stop
> the insulting responses automatically.

Yes. I am trying to stop the "sparks". 

And as a back up, when that doesn't work, i am trying to make people
comfortable with, and less viscerally, lower reptile brain,
reflexively reactive by, "not taking the bait".

And I am working on a a bag of sticky purple smelly goop fallng out
the sky on offenders when those two approaches don't work. 






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