Jesus, Curtis, I feel on the floor laughing! Good one! --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "You can tell him that Dr. > Sun and Fun wants to know. He'll know who I am with > that comment and probably laugh." > > Did those used to be your "safe words" with John? > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'll give a more civil response. The > methodology > > is all screwed-up. First there is no control. What > > functions as the control? Why do they even mention > the > > word "controlled"? In fact this type of research > can > > have no control. You would use a design that is > called > > "interrupted time series analysis". Basically it's > > measure trends over unit of time; intervention in > > effect and measure trends over unit of time; then > no > > intervention and measure trends over unit of time. > You > > do this over and over again. Turning the > intervention > > on and off, so to speak, and measuring your trends > > with the intervention present and then when it is > > absent. Then you crunch your numbers to see if > there > > are statistically significant differences within > and > > between these on and off cycles. Simply measuring > > trends and then applying the intervention and > seeing > > the trends improve means absolutely nothing in > social > > science research. Its like hiring 100 extra police > > officers for two months and then seeing the crime > rate > > drop. It does not mean that the extra officers > caused > > the crime rate to drop. The crime rate could have > been > > dropping or increasing or staying the same > regardless > > of the police officers. That is, what is causing > the > > change in crime rate could have nothing to do with > the > > police officers. The TM research on the ME, in > this > > case, is the same as seeing a car crah after > you've > > sneezed and then claiming your sneeze caused the > car > > to crash. The only way to know if your sneeze > causes > > car crashes is to count car crashes without > sneezes, > > then count them while sneezing, then without and > so > > forth. > > Just so people know, I'd love for there to be > a > > ME. It would be so absolutely cool. But outside of > the > > one DC study which demonstrated a very, very > slight ME > > (and even that is generous) these "studies" are > the > > equivalent of a 4th grade science experiment. They > are > > junk science and it is truly a shame. I think the > > reason they don't do a time series analysis is > that > > they are quite concerned that it would show > nothing. > > If anyone on the course is reading this, please > ask > > John Hagelin why an interupted time series > analysis is > > not used to measure the ME. You can tell him that > Dr. > > Sun and Fun wants to know. He'll know who I am > with > > that comment and probably laugh. > > > > --- dhamiltony2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > So, after reading Thom Krysto's Weekly Reader > > > article about how the > > > TMorg sanitizes things to their own benefit, who > > > would you believe > > > more here about this PR science report? Dr. > Pete's > > > review on FFL or > > > Ken Chawkins of the MUM public relations > department > > > with this press > > > release of the MUM public relations department? > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Peter > > > <drpetersutphen@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > This is called PR science. It is a pile of > shit > > > and > > > > any serious scientist knows it. I'd love to > see > > > them > > > > try to publish this "research". What a joke. > It is > > > an > > > > insult to MMY and this tradition. > > > > > > > > --- sparaig <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.businessportal24.com/de/Investigating_The_Field_Effects_Of_ > > > 67514.html > > > > > > > > > > Investigating The Field Effects Of > Consciousness > > > On > > > > > Socioeconomic Indices > > > > > 2006/11/06 08:03 > > > > > Pressemeldung von: > > > > > Medical News TODAY Mexico, 5th November > 2006 > > > > > > > > > > Can the large collective practice of a > > > > > scientifically documented stress-reducing > > > meditation > > > > > > > > > > technique positively impact a larger > population > > > > > through the "field effects of > > > > > consciousness"--reducing societal stress, > crime, > > > and > > > > > violence, and improving economic > > > > > and climatic trends? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, according to a rigorous, controlled > > > econometric > > > > > analysis of the first 100 days of a $12 > > > > > million scientific demonstration project to > > > monitor > > > > > the effects of 1200 advanced > > > > > Transcendental Meditation practitioners on > U.S. > > > > > quality of life indicators. > > > > > > > > > > The research shows that since the project > began > > > > > on July 23, the Dow Jones Industrial Index > and > > > the > > > > > S&P 500 have posted total gains of > > > > > approximately 12%, and the Nasdaq has > climbed > > > nearly > > > > > 18%--with the Dow repeatedly > > > > > hitting all-time record levels, the S&P > reaching > > > a > > > > > 5.5-year high, and the Nasdaq climbing > > > > > to a five-year high. > > > > > > > > > > "The group of advanced meditators are > 'creating > > > > > coherence in national consciousness'-- > > > > > generating confidence, optimism, and > positivity > > > in > > > > > the national mood," said quantum > > > > > physicist John Hagelin, Ph.D., the > demonstration > > > > > project director. "Sociologists as well as > > > > > economists are aware that the markets are an > > > > > extremely nimble and sensitive barometer of > > > > > the collective consciousness." > > > > > > > > > > The results were presented during a news > > > conference > > > > > on Wednesday, November 1, at 10 > > > > > a.m. CST at Maharishi University of > Management > > > in > > > > > Fairfield, Iowa. > > > > > > > > > > Panelists included > > > > > > > > > > * John Hagelin, Ph.D., director of the > Institute > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
