--- In [email protected], new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "lurkernomore20002000"
> <steve.sundur@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], new.morning <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > Barry speaketh the truth newmorn.  Deprive Judy of this venue, 
and 
> > > > it will cause serious re-adjustments in her life.  
> > > > 
> > > > lurk  
> > > 
> > >Thats your idle speculation. A view I find laughable and silly. 
So 
> > we
> > > disagree. No harm, no foul. 
> > > 
> > > The salient point, its rather rude to express such even if you 
> > beleive
> > > it. Thats the 'foul". Its potentially inflamatory.  It like 
> > spreading
> > > sparks in a dry timeber area. It could trigger a 20-30 post war 
> > that
> > > clogs FFL's arteries.
> > > 
> > > And its hardly consistent with FFL guidelines. 
> > > 
> > > "This group has long maintained a thoughtful and considerate 
tone.
> > > Please refrain from personal attacks, insults and excessive 
> > venting.
> > > 'Speak the truth that is sweet'"
> > > 
> > > When you have a rude thought, hey laugh all you want in 
private. 
> > But
> > > spare us. Keep it to yourself. The last thing we need are more 
> > flame
> > > wars. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your consideration.
> > 
> > Yes, you're right.  I've departed from the restraint I try to 
> > generally show.  
> 
> Which has been admirable.
> 
> >Quite honestly, two days Judy went on rampage 
> > striking out at everyone in her self appointed, non ending role 
> > of "setting the record straight" 
> 
> IMO, setting the record straight is fine. As long as it focusses on
> facts and posts. And not extrapolating that into personal attacks.
> Which only invoke counter attacks ad naseum.
> 
> >It totally poisoned the 
> > discussion. 
> 
> Personal attack do,IMO. on the other hand, clarifiation is good.
> 
> 
> > Certainly Barry has his moments, and he does his share 
> > of aiding and abetting but overall I think the group would be 
> > greatly diminished without his input.
> > 
> > lurkadomous
> >
> I think the group would be diminished without everyones input. 
Except
> when they focus on personal attacks and put downs. In contrast to 
the
> always welcome thoughtful criticisms (or applaudation) of ideas and
> posts. 
> 
> I think the FFL guidelines are good: 
> 
> "This group has long maintained a thoughtful and considerate tone.
> Please refrain from personal attacks, insults and excessive 
> venting. 'Speak the truth that is sweet'"
> 
> Everyone has insights that are a contrbution to the whole. But 
sadly,
> the whole is greatly diminished, IMO, when people focus on character
> attacks. And put downs. Cheap thrills. Because they are attacking a
> person. And such attacks often explode into large flame-wars, ego
> wars, which becomes the sludge dampening FFL's vitality. Hopefully, 
as
> so-called spiritual group can move beyond such play ground antics.

Fine. But why did they come here from alt.med in the first place ? 
Can't they take their rubbish somewhere else ? I hardly read 10% of 
what is posted here these days because of a massive wall of post not, 
at least as I can see, releted to FF or spiritual matters. In my 
opinion they are rude to take up all this space here, a basic lack of 
good behavior. IMO



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