--- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Inside The TM "Green Zone"
> The Washington Post and Gary Lee,
> The standard FF tour given by the campus and the TMorg is really 
> quite impressive, formidable.  Savvy, the team of folks there are 
> incredibly savvy at presentation.  It would be easy to get only 
half 
 of the story if that was just where you went..
> 
> TMorg PR'ers must have been doing hand-springs over this amazing pr-
> coup of that Washington Post article.  Gary Lee, the Post travel 
> writer obviously got in over his head evidently not doing much 
> research before he came or much after and he evidently did not 
wander 
 much outside of the "green zone".   Not like the LA Times person did 
> on her visit.  
> The stunning thing is that they (the TMorg) then felt the need to 
> sanitize the Post article as it was for the internal consumption of 
> their own people.  Is the kind of social engineering things Soviet 
or 
> the Goering or Himmler would do or have good people under them do.  
A 
> more interesting story becomes about integrity or its lack there of 
> the TM movement under Maharishi.  What were good people doing when 
> they do these things?  What were they thinking?
> Gary Lee, a travel section guy with the Wash Post got hit with 
> broadsides and did not know he was sunk.  Pretty funny to see 
> really.  Yes, it was travel writing, not usual Washington Post 
> writing from the front sections that you would expect.  
> From the Washington Post article, look at how the guy was squired 
> around…  a tight choreography.  These guys are the best at the cult 
> of themselves, of the craft of TM-movement pr-propodanda.  
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
> dyn/content/article/2006/11/10/AR2006111000463.html
> Some of the best at movement-ese spin:
> "According to TM spokesman Bob Roth,  …"
> " I met on campus with Roth and Norman Zierold, another spokesman 
for 
> the TM movement."
> "…offered by Dean and Christine Goodale on the hilly lawn of their 
> Vedic City organic farm."
> "…There I met architect Jonathan Lipman,"
> 
> "Even Ed Malloy, the amiable silver-haired mayor, …"
> 
> 
> The travel guy never made it out of the TM-org  "green zone".  Now, 
> for a different story The Washington Post ought to send out another 
> writer better equipped to see what is going on here.  Someone brave 
> enough to venture outside the TMorg  "green-zone" and for instance 
> ask questions related to things like:  
> http://www.give.org/standards/newcbbbstds.asp
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/83701
> or
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/121414
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.give.org/standards/newcbbbstds.asp
> 
> …documentation that they meet basic standards:
> In how they govern their organization,
> In the ways they spend their money,
> In the truthfulness of their representations, and
> In their willingness to disclose basic information to the public. 
> 
> Sanitizing the FF Story  
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/123447
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5" 
> <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
> > FF essayist Thom Krystofiak, who used to write frequently and 
post 
> on 
> > FFL, has a piece published in this week's FF Weekly Reader.  
> Entitled 
> > Sanitizing the  Fairfield Story. About the pr-people of the TMorg 
> > taking the Washington Post's glowing uncritical article about 
> > Maharishi's MUM, Vedic City and TM- Fairfield and their taking 
the 
> > article, re-publishing it and sanitizing it further.  More than a 
> > couple of touch-up evidently as Thom reviews further what was 
done.
> > 
> > What are they thinking when they do that?  They really did not 
need 
> > to, but the damage, to their credibility of anything else they 
say 
> or 
> > write  becomes material.  Their peer-review stuff,, their own 
press-
> > releases, their own explainations about what they do with the 
> money, 
> > their own explainations about what they may be doing for world 
> peace 
> > to what end.  
> > 
> > What were they thinking in their needing to sneak re-write that 
> > Washington Post article without attribution?  In itself it is 
just 
> so 
> > revealing about the cult of their culture up there inside.  Is 
> > stunning to watch them do it.  Would be interesting to hear them 
> try 
> > to explain their actions in a critical interview.  
> > 
> > "What Maharishi is doing is more important than anything anyone 
> else 
> > is doing...", thus justifying anything they may do, to his end?  
> > Becomes the take-off point where good people can do bad things 
they 
> > may not otherwise do.  Seeing this again with the TMorg and our 
> > friends up there?  It does become about the moral integrity of 
> those 
> > doing it and their cause they represent.  The sanitizing of the 
> > Washington Post story is pretty poor which crosses over to being 
> > pretty bad. 
> > 
> > 
> > JGD, -Doug in FF
> >
> 
> ..
>
Inside the "green-zone".
Dear Newmorning, whoever you are,
Hah, you pick that out. 
  I am more thinking about the cult of the culture and the 
[methodical] social engineering of that.   Always bad to drag nazi's 
into a conversation because only 60 years ago it was so horrific.  
Too much buzz and usually stops thought.  However, in comparing, it 
is like looking to the 1920's and then the 30's, where bad things 
started to be done and then socially justified, or the other way 
around where things socially then justified bad things being done.  
It was an unfurling of things bad from something which to some of 
them was good, justified and utopian at the time.  Good people doing 
bad things?  Those were educated people, many with higher education 
and responsible places in society as it all started along.  No 
internet then w/ instant commentary on things.


WWII ended about 60 years ago only now.  Right now in commemoration 
there is a lot of analysis of the remembrance of when the world went 
crazy.  Is only such a short time ago.

So where along the line was it that good people doing some bad 
things, became part of something that then became evil?  The TMorg 
story is evidently not just a good one anymore.  When it gets look 
and for the lack of their transparency it is not clear at all what is 
going on.  Yet we see good people, our friends, doing bad things.


I find these people doing these things particularly fascinating in 
the story here.


Right now on the web there are retrospective articles about the 
Nuremburg trials.  They were only 60 years ago.  You get to see, hear 
and read the range of personality & character types at that level who 
fueled and propel what was such a uptopian movement as it gathered 
and was sustained back then.  A few of the very top were not publicly 
tried in the end because they committed suicide.  But that next tier 
down was.  Most of them were very well situated educated people and 
from society.   What were they thinking when it started and went 
along?  The trial, their own writings, reflections and the 
interviewing that went on during their incarceration provides lots to 
study.

It would be also very interesting to hear what these people, the 
Roths, or the Lipman or the Zierolds, or a Pearson, good people who 
are facilitating and doing these kinds of things here with their 
talents, what they are seeing and thinking about themselves?  That is 
all.

It is going to take a different interviewer&writer than the 
Washington Post sent for that travel article.

-Doug in FF



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