--- In [email protected], "llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> yeah, this was known at MIU during those years

The tmo is never shy to publicize its projects and the vagueness
surrounding that pundit group in late 80s is unusual.  I don't think
they ever really reached the 8000 number at noida.  Plus the thing
faded away under stange circumstances, including indian press reports
of physical and sexual abuse of the boys by older pundits, though the
official statement here in ffld was that most of the young pundits
went home for a holiday and for some reason never came back.   Plus
zimmerman senior's apparent split from the mov't after investigating
how his money was being spent there.  They definitely had a fairly
large group of pundits there for awhile but I sense that the whole
thing was grossly mismanaged.  I'm not sure if mmy falling out of
favor with the changing political guard in india had some impact too.

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:18 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] 8000 in '88
> 
> 
> > On the new Peace Government website, permanentpeace.org, I read the
> > following:
> > 
> > "For three years, from 1988 to 1990, at a location just outside New
> > Delhi, in India, a single philanthropist supported a group of 8,000
> > experts in the Transcendental Meditation technique and the advanced
> > TM-Sidhi program, including Yogic Flying). Over those three years,
> > every major conflict in the world peacefully resolved. First, a war of
> > seven years between Iraq and Iran that had claimed millions of lives
> > finally came to an end. Then, after five years, the Soviet Union's
> > brutal invasion of Afghanistan was called to a halt. Most encouraging,
> > in 1989 the Berlin Wall fell, the Soviet Union dissolved, and forty
> > years of Cold War simply melted away."
> > 
> > Was this a group of 8000 Sidhas (as opposed to a mixture of Sidhas and
> > regular TM meditators)?  And was the existence of this group widely
> > known in the Movement?  I read a mention of it a few years ago, I
> > think in Enlightenment Magazine, but it doesn't seem to have been
> > loudly trumpeted among the Movement.  Perhaps because, the end of the
> > Cold War notwithstanding, it doesn't seem that it produced much in the
> > way of world peace.
> > 
> > Wars ending, in itself, doesn't really provide evidence of increased
> > world peace; all wars do come to an end eventually anyway.  It's HOW
> > the wars end.  If a war stops because one side has been defeated or
> > because of a mere cessation of fighting without a decrease in
> > hostility between the countries, this can hardly be seen as evidence
> > of increased world peace.  And what about other factors that one would
> > expect to show a change in a positive direction during the existence
> > of a group of 8000?  There's no mention of these.  I looked
> > at the US crime rate stats and there was no change in those years. 
> > Perhaps that's why the existence of this group has not been paraded by
> > the TMO.  I sure don't think anybody felt the collective consciousness
> > of the world strongly and suddenly change back then.   
> > 
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