--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am with you, Hermanitor. > > > > > > > > Until someone demonstrates hovering they should not try to > teach > > > > about enlightenment or religion. > > > > > > > > Although I have seen big unathletic geeky ungainly blokes > doing > > > > yogic hopping in such an amazingly effortless and almost > > floating > > > > way (and long jumps for 20 or 30 minutes) that it becomes > > > impossible > > > > not to believe that there is something to it, that must be > > > > important. It is uncanny what I saw in England many times. > This > > > one > > > > unathletic big galoot of a guy, hopping effortlessly and big > > > jumps, > > > > giggling, and almost oblivious to the act of hopping, the > whole > > > time > > > > for 20-30 minutes. > > > > > > > > OffWorld > > > > > > Hi, hovering has nothing to do with enlightenment. It is an > > > indication of a clear channel within the human nervous system, > > > though not an indicator of Self Realization. Whether or not we > can > > > manifest results of the Patanjali Yoga sutras or not has nothing > > to > > > do with the complete freedom and lack of boundaries that we live > > > when Self Realization dawns. The sutras are indications of the > > > clarity needed to live an enlightened state and indications of > > good > > > progress to that end. But they are not indications of > > enlightenment. > > > From my own experience I used to have excellent results with > many > > > sutras, and I was definitely not Self-Realized! >> > > > > > > How do you know you were not self-realised? What proof do you have > > for this, and why can I not consider such proof yet another > illusion > > of yours. You see, it works both ways if you want to so construe > it. > > > > OffWorld > > I don't want to stand in the way with whatever you want to > believe. :-) > > > > <<So perhaps this is > > > why the common expression associated with the Yoga Sutras is > that > > > they can be a distraction. In other words, the waking state mind > > > finds them flashy and tangible, and may be distracted from its > one > > > pointed focus on Self Realization.>> > > > > And who shall make such a concrete and definative judgement that > you > > shall pay attention to?...he that only walks and talks?...or he > > that can fly? > > > > OffWorld > > > > I can't say. Please make up your own mind on this.>>
Think for myself !?! Ouch. OffWorld
