--- In [email protected], "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > "Doing program" in a room with siddhas, at its finest, > > was a 3 on a scale that, for me, goes to 11. There > > really wasn't much to get freaked about. > > > I am *not* saying that the phenomena I experienced were > > in any sense "better" than those one can have with the > > TM siddhis. But more powerful? My scale of 1 to 11 is > > logarithmic, like the Richter scale. > > I'd be interested to know what you use to measure it:
It's subjective, and not really expressible in words. > Freakiness No. > Powerful feeling Not in the sense of day-to-day "feelings," more like immersion in a field of tangible power and light. > Expansiveness Yup. > Greater understanding Sometimes. > Knowingness Sometimes. > Separateness from the body Not really. For example, "astral traveling" or "waking up in one's dreams," would be about a 4 for me. Fun, but they don't really accomplish all that much IMO. It's not really a hard-and-fast "scale" as such, more of a retrospective ranking in terms of the intensity of the experience at the time, the transformative nature of the experience at the time (did I shift to a radically different state of attention while it was going on?), and the more important transformative nature of the experience after it was over (did I *stay* in a radically different state of attention after it was over?). One of the criteria of my "higher numbers" is clarity. Absolutely *no* sense of being spaced out, and no "disconnect" from the "real world." In other words, if an emergency had come up while the experience was going on (as happened a couple of times), I was completely able to handle it. If the day after the experience I wake up and I am the same "I" I was the day before, it wasn't higher than a 5. It's all subjective, and playful. I'm not really "ranking" these things as they happen. It's sort of a game I play with the experiences afterwards.
