Toni - Posted: 03-26-2005 09:04 AM Post subject: From private messages
twixt former TM groupies
So, a circus story for you follows ... devout celibate bramacharya (monk) that
you were:
There was a 'stringer' (she put together the spiritual necklaces) at Crest
Jewel who tried to bed as many 108/bramacharyas/ purusha boys as she could. She
had a special strand of linked rudraksha beads, one bead per celibate she'd
bedded. Back in 1980, she had over 50 beads on her special strand, before she
was 30 years old herself. The beads linked in silver, wrapped around her wrist
- her badge of sexual superiority over Mahesh's celibate control. Bevan was her
goal. I don't know if she ever made it.
Someone else used to have phone sex with Bevan Morris (for the lurkers, he's
one of the devoted monk-like leaders at top). Bevan used to call her from all
over the world.
Martin - Posted: 03-26-2005 01:08 PM Post subject: of snakes and oil and
salesmen and punters
Love the story about the stringer. I wonder if Mahesh kept track of the women
he bedded. I noticed when I was in Seelisberg that he stopped wearing the
string of coral on gold wire with the medallion of Guru Dev (I think Shiva was
on the other side ... Mahesh means Shiva). Was he too ashamed? Doubtful. The
bedding had gone on since the early 60's. Probably someone nicked it. He played
a wire recording of Guru Dev one evening and later we heard somone had nicked
the wire recordings. At least one of them is not available on the Internet.
Bevan and phone sex sounds about right. Who'd have him really? Well, I suppose
we both know the blissninnies who would.
For lurkers: "bliss ninny" is a tm term from the early days and indicated the
idiotic types who assumed they were blissful and highly evolved. They were sort
of faries, after a fashion, tm enlightenment faries. They were disgusting,
pretentious and really gave the "movement" a bad name.
They were, in Mahesh's own words, moodmakers. Later he discovered that actually
selling moodmaking brought in heaps of cash.
There were also quite sensible, good people around him. They were great to be
around and could actually be trusted if you had a problem. Since Mahesh didn't
like problems, you had to be sure he didn't find out you had a problem. It kept
everyone in line on the surface, superficial level and contributed to a tm
underground of sorts. I spent quite a few evenings with Mahesh Bashers in
Seelisberg. Since we all had evil stories to tell, we knew we could trust one
another because we couln't grass on one another.
So I picked up quite a bit. But even we, then, at that time, there, didn't know
about Mahesh screwing the faithful women -- we didn't know and yet, night after
night, there were always a few women who paraded out of the lecture hall and
followed him to his room.
Must have been highly confidential Organization business. At least that's what
we rationalized. Even the worst of the Mahesh Bashers never brought it up.
Delusional thinking plays a big role in cult maintenance. At some point the
bubble breaks for someone. So, like Abraham Lincoln said: you can fool some of
the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you
can't fool all of the people all of the time.
M
Toni - Posted: 07-17-2005 02:24 PM Post subject: A Tale of Two Gurus
Petrick contrasts Amma's down-to-earth mission of helping the poor with
Maharishi's promises of world peace and supernatural powers like levitation.
"There's no pie in the sky with her," he said.
The upper ranks of the TM movement are filled with "excellencies" and
"highnesses." For $1 million, you can take a course that entitles you to become
a "raja," or king, in the Global Country of World Peace. And every so often,
you can see white stretch limousines driving around Fairfield with the Global
Country's golden flag fluttering in the breeze.
It should surprise no one that such airs of royalty don't go over well in
America -- which, after all, fought a revolution to get rid of its monarchy.
But they also contrast sharply with the tales of humility told by Amma's
admirers, who say she's been known to carry bricks on her head and jump into
sewers to work alongside her followers.
"She teaches by example, I think, that we're all created equal and that you
don't have the big important people and the little peons," said Archer.
Amma's humanitarian efforts -- building homes for the poor, funding hospitals,
coordinating tsunami relief -- contrast just as sharply with the TM movement's
fundraising campaigns, which promise world peace but never seem to make a
concrete impact. The latest TM campaign is an effort to build 3,000 "peace
palaces" around the world, with a price tag of $3 million each. The total is a
staggering $9 billion -- which could build a lot of hospitals.
Faced with a choice between an organization that builds homes for the poor and
one that builds palaces, it's no wonder many people would rather give their
money to the former.
If Maharishi's organization dropped some of its airs, it would be less likely
to lose followers to Amma or any other guru.
The TM movement can crown all the kings and build all the palaces it wants, but
it could still learn a thing or two from a humble Indian woman who travels
around the world giving hugs.
Rose - Posted: 05-18-2006 02:43 PM Post subject: a thousand heads
OH, I also want to comment on something that Toni said in an earlier post about
a lady who made it her goal to boink the many-headed Purusha guys. (wrong
head). That made me laugh so hard! For those who are just lurking, that is a
name given to the celibate branch of TM. Yes, they don't tell you about that at
an introductory lecture, either! Later it is revealed to you that if you want
to get anywhere in your path to enlightenment, you really need to become
celibate. It was quite hard on the men who had led healthy vital sex lives
before.
Basically, I think it got them so twisted in their own sexual frustrations that
they didn't have the hormonal stability to ask 'why am I rounding for 8 hours a
day and paying for the privilege?' According to the previous poster Martin,
that is Mahesh's goal! Only the distempered freak can serve him with no
questions asked.
Most of the women I talked to had it as a goal to nail a Purusha or two. I'm
not kidding! We figured they were ripe meat, and of course the purpose of a
female in the movement is to marry a Governor and nothing lower in status will
do! Since most of the governors were away on courses or off doing Mahesh's
bidding if a group came to town for one of those 7000 thingamajigs it was like
a feeding frenzy.
Toni - Posted: 05-18-2006 11:02 PM Post subject: Re: here come the clones
It's about the money, honey!
"Householders" do things like buy houses, have children, school expenses.
That's less money for advanced courses, advanced techniques, etc. The
successful could have marriages, as long as the marriages supported
enlightenment.
Oh, but M fixed that problem.. private schools for the kids, and stapthya vedic
arhcitecture, Ayurvedic products for the whole family. bladdity blah.
Then there were celibate marriages of leading manniquin couples.
So, what was THAT about? Why marry?
In the seventies, Keith Wallace was dating supermodel Samantha Jones. Keith
Wallace was president of MIU. Keith performed original TM brainwave studies w/
Herbert Benson (Relaxation Response), published in Scientific American.
Keith wanted to marry Samantha.
M denied Keith permission to marry her.
Keith got Samantha pregnant - whoops!
Keith married Samantha w/o M's permission.
M then dethroned Keith from MIU presidency, and Keith was immediatly brought to
Seelisberg for an extended time of work w/ M.
Samantha, new bride and pregnant, was alone in faculty housing at MIU for the
first months of her marriage.
Larry Domash became next MIU president. Larry was an unmarried physicist w/
original writings about Unified Field = Transcendence. Bevan was an Australian
upstart at that point.
Martin Adanac - Posted: 07-26-2006 09:58 AM Post subject: lovely story
One day, whilst we were all meditating, a hum from some electrical something
could be heard, one by one we started to hum with it. Finally we all started to
giggle uncontrolably. I don't remember if we were chastised, no doubt, however,
we were.
It must have been one of those contributing factors that convinced Mahesh that
large group meditation/rounding was the ideal environment for brainwashing. I
distinctly remember in Fiuggi that he told the gathered and addlebrained (from
rounding, they were probably at one time decent people) that no one could love
them as he could.
What a weasel. His Wholly Weaselness. He may have done the same in Estes Park,
but I can't remember.
Now, I wonder why shredding the ordinary so the CIA wouldn't find out was so
important to the old Humper. Maybe he was actually afraid of being found out
for being so totally ordinary and basically unimpressive??? After all, besides
being the first travelling TM teacher, what else was he? Even the
phantasmorigacal courses he made up after La Antilla were basically the
reworkings of other peoples' ideas and research.
Anybody with the course fee could find out the secrets (mantras by age and
sex). Getting mind-boggled by lots of meditation. I guess he'd hardly want
Government folks to also know that other than that there was nothing but
mundane stuff.
So funny to think about now, but we took it so seriously.
I enjoyed your message. Thanks for sharing it.
M
Martin Adanac - Posted: 07-26-2006 12:08 PM Post subject:
Then there was the incident as he was going to his car and an elderly lady with
an apparently unwell child in arms approached him. He hurried up and began
rolling up the window. He was afraid! He muttered something about giving it
(IT) some good food.
But the real harbinger of sunlight was the 'sidhi' course. Obviously he was
tampering with the Holy Tradition. Well, I thought it was obvious.
Joe H - Posted: 07-26-2006 12:53 PM Post subject:
Hi Martin,
Yep, I remember thinking at the first Sidhi course....for the last how many
years he's been saying that "super powers" and sidhis are a distraction to the
goal. All of a sudden it's OK to go for tricks and of course get charged for
it. it created this whole stratification to the thing.....were you a lowly
meditator, a checker, a teacher, a "108", a Govenor, Parusha.....on and on. I
was always amazed that so much would be promised as he was ramping up a new
"course". The course would come and go, we paid our money..and nothing would
change. Wait a few months and all of a sudden there was the new , improved
model course. There we were again, as if we forgot everything that came before.
I began to think our brains must be rotting to forget our own common sense.
Toni - Posted: 07-26-2006 07:09 PM Post subject: CIA
The CIA rumors were fabricated by our fearless leader.
Kept us feeling paranoid. It was his way of getting rid of people that
knew-too-much.
For example, a few old friends of mine were publicly told by MMY "OK, Jeff, go
back to the CIA now. You know there's nothing here for you."
They were then escorted out by the German guards, and put on a bus to the
airport. This happened in a few isolated incidents.
As my starry-eyed mother told me "Toni, it's incredible that MMY knew all along
that the CIA was there! He allowed them to see that we are an innocent,
benevolent organization, then sent them away!"
These circumstances happened individually. The men themselves later told me "I
wasn't with the CIA EVER!"
They had been involved with some private movement business, $$, and
knew-too-much. They were already doubting. The best way for MMY to protect
himself was to publicly eliminate potential bad seeds who had inside info.
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