--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<jflanegi@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > > > <snip> Hey, it's just the Paradox of Brahman.  
> > > > 
> > > > Not at all- its the failure of you and sparaig to just deal 
with 
> > Peter 
> > > > as Peter, and instead thinking that he should act 
differently than 
> > he 
> > > > is because he was talking about enlightened states earler.
> > > 
> > > Every aspect of Peter's response oozed attachment.
> > >
> > Perhaps involvement, perhaps passion, perhaps frustration, but 
> > attachment? How can you possibly tell? Attachment or non 
attachment is 
> > not something that can be determined by any sort of logical 
formula. 
> > 
> > This is a HUGE misconception regarding enlightened consciousness 
vs 
> > unenlightened consciousness, that somehow based on someone's 
speech or 
> > actions, a determination of attachment can be made. That some 
logical 
> > conclusion can be reached. This is silly and wrong to think this 
way.
> 
> True, it is impossible to tell whether someone is enlightened 
based on heir behavior, 
> including choice-of-words, but I see no reason to assume that 
Peter's use of the f-word 
> and personal attacks in his response to me was anything more than 
an ego-based 
> response to my characterization of his giving medical advice over 
the internet (not to 
> mention his OWN characterizations of family doctors and counselors 
whom he has never 
> met) as "unethical and stupid."
> 
> I have family members who practice TM, are under psychiatric care 
and use anti-psychotic 
> medication. Peter was quite blatantly trying to usurp the 
authority of specific medical 
> providers and I called him on it. Rather than say: "ur right, I 
was speaking generically, and 
> shouldn't have said that," he just fumed until given the 
opportunity to lash out at me.
> 
> I see no other way of interpretting his initial comments and his 
subsequent remarks save 
> as ego-based.
> 
> You, of course, can make all sorts of noises about enlightened 
behavior and so on, and on 
> a theoretical level, you are correct. However, I see no reason to 
assume that Peter is 
> honest with himself about his own state of consciousness, based on 
his recent unethical 
> medical behavior. in this forum. There's no coneivable reason to 
put yourself on a limb 
> professionally the way he did save ego, and no conceivable reason 
to lash out against me 
> the way he did save ego.
> 
> Think what you will. I've given you MY thoughts on the matter.Of 
course, by your own 
> claim, you don't have thoughts, in general, since you are blazing 
Brahama...
>
Before we go any further about what I am about to do, or not, I just 
want to say that this response of yours makes perfect sense, in that 
it is a rational explanation for how you are seeing Peter's 
behavior. I was responding to your comment earlier that Peter's 
response was all about attachment. That's all.

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