I listen to no other human on the subject but myself, as I entered TM for my 
own personal reasons. Namely to get as described, deep rest, and that's what I 
did.  When I was fifteen I was already totally burnt on life and I was a 
satanist hollywood punk rocker who had bad tripped on acid many times, and who 
felt he simply had never lived.  My goal was to live deeply, and I knew I had 
fucked myself all up by staying out all night and being on drugs, and never 
caring about anything and I needed to descover all these things for myself in a 
supportive environment where I could heal in quietness and so I went to MIU. 
The process worked for me. And then I fell right back into my old ways. But now 
I am a punk rocker who does drugs who doesn't bad trip anymore and I do care 
about things and feel pretty good moments each day now. I guess I could say I'm 
happy.  I don't really do TM much anymore, though I do sometimes if I go on a 
retreat. Fact is, I find it too powerful. It derails my life. I guess I 
transcend pretty easy. Sidhis have worked to a degree mainly transcendence 
senses ones and a few others. I do not find TM different from any other highest 
yogic practice in the world that I have studied and I guess you could say that 
I have four books of sadhanas from various lamas and gurus - books of sheets 
culled from initiations. It is all one. There is not a shred of difference 
between what MMY teaches and what we learn in the Mahayana it's just more 
immediately reified on the relative. MMY is the only guru we know that took to 
packaging enlightenment.  

Enlightenment can be understood as many things but one thing it directly is is 
the engaging of oneself with liberation through sight channels and eventually 
all who are enlightened will be full of light as experience of their own nature 
reflected through the visual channels. From this perspective MMY has sold 
enlightenment or the instilling of transcendental self awareness which is the 
engagement with the light awareness of oneself. Since it's oneself therefore it 
is not MMY who has necesssarily engaged this process but oneself and MMY is the 
reflection of oneself engaging liberation through these products which allow 
their unfolding. It's a pretty satisfactory process to me as when I am killing 
myself working I can take some product and get rid of the negatives of the 
action and change karma from bad to good. How awesome is that!?

So I can take some amrit to rid myself of poisons. Or have jyotish or yajnas to 
rid myself of bad shit.  (If MMY would get the yajna shit together right - 
never heard much good about his pundits).  or transcend or get sidhis through 
those programs.  MMY is some right fly shit for the money. I'm happy and proud 
that I went to his university and helped develop the underlying purusha of 
clarity for persons to draw upon. Though I am a Shakta Dzogchen Buddhist. That 
is that I refer to the supreme identity of myself with Shakti and emptiness and 
I have been therefore on the initiating edge for many lives. Since Shakti is 
the initiator. "Shiva is shava without Shakti." We Dzogchen practitioners have 
long been considered punk rocker satanists and we wear the bone ornaments. 
Because this world is the smashan. Do not look for happiness in it. But 
happiness can be found in the source of life as the Trikaya.  And then brought 
to bear on the world. 

Nothing has changed
but ones identification. 
Away from the earth 
and towards the space.

The fascinating thing about this group is that everyone here has a spiritual 
reality, even if it's not consensual. That, to me, is why I love you all in 
spite of sometimes getting flustered. In my book those who initate the light 
are my family, helping me to become liberated from bad shit, thus my friends as 
well.  So I thank each and every one of you non-materialists for helping 
through the years. You have my appreciation. As does MMY. It's you guys who got 
us out of the stilted Victorian mentality and opened the door to the light. I 
know MMY answered some of my prayers. My deepest prayers answered by my root 
lama who I knew only for three short years before he passed. 

But I love MMY. He had to smack the world with a sledgehammer, and I swear 
sometimes I thought it was meant for me but it wasn't it was meant for the 
materialists who are nihilists and who do not believe in karma. Those persons 
who wish to control all the world's resources for their own family. The 
Oligarchy and their age old supporters the Republic.

If one enjoins the light then they have become important and if they enjoin the 
dark then they are numerous and pointless. Thus light must by necessity always 
win. Eventhough it is meaningless it instills all meaning. Whereas though one 
dies for a point it has been done countlessly and is meaningless. 

Moreover the Maharishi Effect tells us that light multiplies. Maybe the exact 
mechanics are not understood just as how weather prediction is still shakey. So 
not predictable, but in my heart I feel the widening of the horizon of clarity 
of awareness, and since I am so unremarkable a person from birthright, I know 
that all of us have done this. 

Because I couldn't have alone. 
This what?  This - perfection!

It wasn't around when I was a lad. 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jason Spock 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 5:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Reserve



     Well, Sir Kirk, Most of MMY's ideas makes sense.  I am a TM-shill myself.  

     But, some of the ideas don't.  Here's a link Wacky

      The point is the "Sidhi Program" has put unbelieveable psychological 
pressure on the TM-org.

     The other Spiritual organisations don't suffer from this kind of 
pressures.  So their development is well grounded in the long run.

     There is an immense psychological pressure on the TM-org to "Perform" and 
to "Prove", both are fatal for spiritual growth.

      They have this pressure to 'prove' that they are Special and a cut above 
the rest which again is fatal.

     This 'pressure' makes the TM-org do more and more ridiculus things like, 

     planning to build thousands and thousands of peace palaces,

     building a world's tallest building in every time zone,

     organising large groups of 'Yogic flyers' for futile butt bouncing,

     and huge purusha groups and Mother divine groups,  (spiritual growth is an 
personal one.)

      Mad money scheme (Raam) which is just worthless Colourfull paper,

     insisting only in Ayurvedic medical treatment, which does NOT work if 
there is a medical emergency, (how crazy can you get)

      Name calling like 'Scorpion nation' 'Holes in the brain' etc etc.

      I am sure Dr. Peter Stuphen knows what is psychologicaly wrong with the 
TM-org.

      Have you read this Article by Coleman.  FFL post No 79084


  llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 09:43:08 -0600
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Reserve


  Well, the point though is that we have the ability to have sidhis built into 
this new Vatacan which has ostensibly started out with more converts than the 
Church. MMY may well be someday the more revered prophet ever. History only 
knows.




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