--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "dhamiltony2k5"
> <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> >
> > I have been out traveling from FF to spiritual places out 
> > West and recently out East, and it is informative to hear 
> > people in reaction to Maharishi when you go other places.   
> 
> This strikes me as an excellent exercise in the 
> "healthy mind challenging its own assumptions"
> credo that distinguishes FFL from other TM-related
> sites and most of its participants from TBs. One 
> of the things I think we all agree on is that if 
> one bases one's opinion of Maharishi and TM *solely* 
> on what one hears from *within* the TM movement, 
> one gets a rather different picture than one would 
> get if one examined feedback from a broader sampling 
> within the larger spiritual community.
> 
> One Web resource that is fun, although rather 
> subjective, is "Sarlo's Guru Rating Service" at:
> http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Ratings.htm

Very interesting site.  Do read the About page
and the Disclaimer page, and the links thereon,
including one to a longish excerpt from Osho
(Sarlo's guru) titled "Why Gurus Criticize Each
Other," a fascinating theory, in which Osho tells
a story about Rumi:


One day Jalaluddin Rumi took all his students, disciples and devotees 
to a field. That was his way to teach them things of the beyond, 
through the examples of the world. He was not a theoretician, he was 
a very practical man. The disciples were thinking, "What could be the 
message, going to that faraway field... and why can't he say it here?"

But when they reached the field, they understood that they were wrong 
and he was right. The farmer seemed to be almost an insane man. He 
was digging a well in the field – and he had already dug eight 
incomplete wells. He would go a few feet and then he would find that 
there was no water. Then he would start digging another well... and 
the same story was continued. He had destroyed the whole field and he 
had not yet found water.

The master, Jalaluddin Rumi, told his disciples, "Can you understand 
something? If this man had been total and had put his whole energy 
into only one well, he would have reached to the deepest sources of 
water long ago. But the way he is going he will destroy the whole 
field and he will never be able to make a single well. With so much 
effort he is simply destroying his own land, and getting more and 
more frustrated, disappointed: what kind of a desert has he 
purchased? It is not a desert, but one has to go deep to find the 
sources of water."

He turned to his disciples and asked them, "Are you going to follow 
this insane farmer? Sometimes on one path, sometimes on another path, 
sometimes listening to one, sometimes listening to another... you 
will collect much knowledge, but all that knowledge is simply junk, 
because it is not going to give you the enlightenment you were 
looking for. It is not going to lead you to the waters of eternal 
life."

http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Ycrit.htm

<snip>
> Just for fun, here's his entry on Maharishi (rating = *):
> 
> "Founder of Maharishi Thousand-Headed Purusha... 
> Transcendental Meditation®... discovered the Constitution 
> of the Universe... Yogic Flying to create supreme mind-body 
> coordination in the individual and coherence in world 
> consciousness... Absolute Theories of Government, Education, 
> Health, and Defense to raise every area of life to perfection." 
> Guru was Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math. Anti link is an 
> ex-TM-teacher, talk of hypnosis, adverse reactions. 
> Tripletalk, enormous money, but benefit of doubt.  2nd 
> anti site into exposing "myths."

FWIW, the anti link from the ex-TM teacher is Joe
Kellett's site; the other one is called "Behind the
TM Facade" and has no clue as to who is responsible
for it.


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