--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "wayback71" <wayback71@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > It took a while, but it just occurred to me how different 
> awakening is from what we are 
> > looking for.  We think we are looking for eternal life for the 
> self when the body dies.  
> > Instead what really happpens in Awakening is the oppposite:  the 
> self "dies"  ( or the 
> > notion of what the self is dies) while the body is alive and goes 
> on living for a while longer.
> 
> > On a related note:  a totally western, traditional psychiatrist 
> told me the other day that the 
> > sense of self is really just an amazingly quick "data sweep" of 
> the different activities in the 
> > brain, giving rise to illusion of a self in control of things.  
> Pretty nice description, 
> > especilaly coming form the neurscientist perspective on the mind.
> 
> Perfect! :-) And the amazingly quick data sweep continues once the 
> self is Awake-- the difference being that after Awakening, the 
> amazingly quick data sweep is for the purpose of establishing a 
> context for relative functioning only, whereas before Awakening, the 
> amazingly quick data sweep is also in order to re-establish our 
> (false) identity. :-)
>

The (false) identify is still re-established with every data-sweep. However, 
this data-sweep 
no longer overshadows Self so the re-establishment concerns integration of 
different 
sensory/thought processes (as it always does) and no longer is perceived as the 
most 
permanent "thing" present, so the integration of different sensory/thought 
processes is no 
longer identified as out "true self."

The "Self," in this (TM) case being [TM] samadhi, which is what is left over 
when the 
thalamus stops allowing sensory processing OR sensory-cortical feedback 
processing 
while still remaining alert. The brain is constantly optimizing itself 
physically. However, 
this optimization is constantly being challenged by new sensory/thought input, 
so 
samadhi-style optimization seldom becomes dominant. With enough exposure to 
samadhi 
during TM, alternated with regular activity, samadhi becomes stable (dominant) 
outside 
TM and Self is never overshadowed by the data-sweep self.


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