--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> <snip>
> > MDixon's absolutely right on this, Lawson.  I don't
> > know where the idea that the Iraqis never fired on
> > U.S. planes got started, but it's just wrong, unless
> > the military is blatantly lying.
> 
> Just a few examples from the media reporting:
> 
> 
> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraq said Tuesday that it was exercising its 
> right to retaliate against what it called violations of its air space 
> and that Iraqi planes were now flying in the "no-fly" zones in 
> northern and southern Iraq. 
> 
> Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan made the statement one day after 
> U.S. aircraft patrolling the northern no-fly zone fired on an Iraqi 
> anti-aircraft battery in what Washington said was an act of self-
> defense after the U.S. planes came under Iraq missile fire. (December 
> 9, 1998)
> 
> http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9812/29/iraq.02/
> 
> 
> A spokesman said the attacks -- three in the southern zone and five 
> in the northern zone -- occurred after Iraqi radar "illuminated" 
> American and British planes patrolling the zones and after artillery 
> was fired at the planes. (March 6, 1999)
> 
> http://www.cnn.com/US/9903/06/iraq.attack.02/index.html
> 
> 
> Last year Iraqi air defenders frequently challenged allied air 
> patrols by targeting them with radars or firing anti-aircraft 
> artillery guns or surface-to-air missiles. (April 22, 2002)
> 
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,50901,00.html
> 
> 
> U.S. and British pilots daily play a dangerous cat-and-mouse game as 
> Iraq tries to shoot them down and they retaliate....The Iraqis are so 
> afraid of U.S. anti-radar missiles that they usually fire their 
> missiles without turning on their short-range targeting radar, giving 
> them little chance of hitting a plane, officials say. (August 25, 
> 2002)

My gues is that saddam ordered them to fire, so they did, but radar crews 
generally kept 
their radar off in order to avoid dying.

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