--- In [email protected], "Richard J. Williams" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > jim_flanegin wrote:
> > > > I'd like to hear your definition of Buddha.
> > > > 
> > > Which Buddha?
> > 
> > Any ol' Buddha.
> >
> The historical Buddha?

Beats me. I barely know anything about religion. not a strong 
interest of mine. 
> 
> > My logic was that to deny the existence of God while 
> > following someone who because of their perfected nature 
> > (what I would call their Divine nature) gave birth to a 
> > religion, didn't make sense to me. 
> > 
> Did Barry say that he was a follower of the historical Buddha?
> 
> > Then after exploring what we meant by "God", I decided it 
> > wasn't the contradiction I had first thought, more an issue 
> > of perception and that being a completely personal thing, 
> > is not up for debate as far as I am concerned. Everyone 
> > perceives God differently, even those choosing not to believe 
> > in His/Her existence.
> >
> So, why do you suppose Barry insists on stating time after time 
that
> he's a Buddhist who doesn't believe in God if it's not up for 
debate?

I am saying I don't debate stuff like that. everyone's path is 
different right? 
 
> I'm simply pointing out that most Buddhists that I know believe in 
all
> kinds of Gods and Bodhisatvas.

I would hope so. 
> 
> By "beyond the range of human vision" the Buddha meant that there 
is a
> transcendental state of conciousness that is beyond our ordinary 
range
> of perception.
>
Yep.

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