--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:37 PM, llundrub wrote: > > > > > > > so then upon what fixed medium exactly could pundits be working. > > > > > > Vibrations perceived in humanity about 5000 years ago, crafted on > a > > > then in vogue hierarchy of Vedic storm God's, etc. ? Of course > you > > > can argue that these were great rishis and they went "beyond > time". > > > But even so, 3000 BCE ain't 2007. We've evolved. Our nervous > > systems > > > aren't even close. I don't buy the Vedic eternity-tradition > > bullshit > > > trip any more. Although I did use to enjoy the story. > > > > > Why not buy the Vedic eternity tradition? Its not something that > can > > be proved one way or the other, so just like your feelings for > > Maharishi not being in union with God, it comes down to intuition, > > belief and opinion. So why call it bullshit? > > > > For Vedic vibration technology to work, it would have to be > eternal. > > Otherwise it would be relative, and therefore not universal. > Perhaps > > the dogmas inherent in Buddhism prevent you from seeing the > universal > > nature of both Maharishi and these Vedic technologies. I can't say > for > > sure, but it certainly seems like a plausible explanation. > > Plus which, if, as Vaj claims, "our nervous systems > have evolved" in the last 5,000 years to the point > where vibrations discerned back then no longer "worked" > for us, the same should be true of mantras or any > other ancient "sacred" sounds. > > I'm not aware of any research showing that our > nervous systems have evolved in any case.
Certainly our nervous systems have evolved during the last 5,000 years, just as they evolved during the 5,000 years before that, and the 5,000 years before that, on and on, infinitely. That is why I said earlier that the Vedas must be eternal vibrations-- ever spinning into different combinations of all the different dimensions of experience. So the Vedas are the primordial, near timeless, near ageless, bridge of vibration, unifying our silence with our activity. No tradition owns them, or modifies them, for they are unchangeable. Saints have rested comfortably for long periods of time in that space where the Vedic vibrations, systems of vibrations almost finer than human hearing, can be identified and 'seen'. The Saints provide commentaries on the Veda, but cannot alter it, only seeing it from this angle, or that angle, as it arises naturally into their awareness. From this seeing of the Veda, each Saint provides his own commentary, and from this particular perspective, new powerful technologies arise; yagyas, puja, and mantras, allowing each of us the chance to begin exploring that unending and endlessly fascinating realm, where and when silence just becomes alive.
