--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > This is an example of what the caste system is *really*
> > like, not what Maharishi and you present as an idealized
> > picture of it. Maharishi's portrayal of what caste is all
> > about in India today is as accurate as his portrayal of 
> > what life was like in India in Vedic times.
> 
> MMY talks about an *ideal*. Whether or not that ideal ever 
> existed or can EVER exist isn't germane to what he says 
> about the ideal. 

This statement is one for the ages. :-)

It's *extremely* germane. That was my whole point in
asking you the questions I did a while back about
"Vedic times." You seem to have *bought* the "ideal"
hook, line, and sinker, and like so many other TM
followers, believe that if we just get enough butt-
bouncers and pundits together, we can *re*establish
this "golden age" on planet Earth. The problem is
that historically this "golden age" NEVER
HAPPENED. It's a fantasy. So is the fantasy 
of how the caste system is "supposed" to work.

It's a set of plans for the world that are based
on UNREALITY, on one man's fantasies. I *applaud*
the desire to work for a better world; I just wish
that the "template" that some of those folks have
for that better world were based on reality.

> Now, you can take the stance, as a practical matter, that 
> such a thing simply can't happen in the real world, but 
> you never discuss things that way that I can recall...

Just did. Deal with it.




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