--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Peter: Perhaps, in terms of spiritual evolution, it would serve these > two people better to distance themselves from their own ideas and > preconceptions of how things ought to be and (1) realize that Kali is > still holding on to the world in this Yuga; whilst (2) view the TMO as > a focused mirror of the contemporary world as one preferably might > view the world in general: non-judgementally, whilst taking things > easy and as they come (and being regular in their programming). > > > Me: I understand that you are trying to take the long view here, and > I'm sure that this version of re-framing events has value for you. > But I think you are also missing an important point about having > personal values and integrity. There is no absolute value in not > judging the world. For me it is quite the opposite. By applying my > judgments on the world I have discovered my own ethics and values that > are important to me.
It's about the Big Picture - not the long view. The Big Picture is no less without integrity etc as any other scale of comprehension. Perhaps you're having problems with distinguishing between the faculties of discrimination and being judgmental (one is related to the mind and the other the heart)? > > The Indian myth of the yugas may or may not be accurate to historical > fact, but it doesn't give anyone the right to screw people over or be > unethical. I don't think people should "take it easy" when confronted > with unethical or cruel actions. > > Distancing oneself from your own "ideas and preconceptions of how > things aught to be" sounds like a detached existence without any heart > or self-knowledge. Our minds shouldn't be so open that our brains > fall out. Personal values and insights into life are hard earned and > deserve respect. Well, in the business these people find themselves their personal values and insight concern nothing less than their selfs as the Self, which may - or may not - have a set of insights and values that are unique, or at least hard to come by. Given the forum this discussion is taking place in, is this not your business too? > Just because we are wrong sometimes and our > knowledge is always growing doesn't mean we can't have any knowledge > that we can be confident about, until evidence shows us a better way > to think. > > Years of living gives us the advantage that we can know some stuff. > Not absolute knowledge in my case, but some convictions that guide my > life. If a person tries to screw me over, I judge that as wrong > without any insecurity or self doubt. No one can convince me that > they have a "good" reason for hurting me. > > The Kaplans earned the right to their judgments about TMO. It may not > match your own, but they were sincere students of MMY and I'll bet > they came to their conclusions about the organization at a cost of > personal pain and struggle. If you are preaching being > non-judgmental, perhaps you could apply it to your judgments of their > own personal realization on their path through life and their evolving > relationship with TMO and MMY. > What if I told you that whatever might befall you, your family or anyone you love, you have no cosmic "right" or "license" to be judgmental? Why? Because you are the creator of it all. Chew on that you %&)#&%)(&ยค/()=! :(: [snip]
