--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" > > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > I consider myself fortunate to have worked with Fred > > > > > > Lenz (Rama), despite many negatives, because when you > > > > > > were around him the energy field was so strong that > > > > > > it was almost impossible to hold onto *anything* long > > > > > > enough to believe it was "truth." You'd go out into > > > > > > the desert with the dude and have your belief systems > > > > > > (and your notions of what 'reality' is) blown right > > > > > > out of their socks dozens of times a night. So what's > > > > > > to hold onto? > > > > > > > > > > The belief that Lenz had some supernormal ability to > > > > > blow away your belief systems and notions of what > > > > > "reality" is? > > > > > > > > > Ha-Ha! Yeah, good one! The thing that is impossible to > > understand > > > > except through direct experience is the truth of life, which > > occurs > > > > when reality has been blown away so many times through whatever > > > > practice that we finally live permanently outside of the realm > > of > > > > Maya. > > > > > > > > There seems to be three states here. one is the state where life > > is > > > > lived in the dream of illusion, of unquestioning, ruled by ego > > and > > > > the ego dream. two is the state that barry talks about and > > enjoys, > > > > where the ego dream is challenged and sometimes destroyed. It is > > an > > > > exciting stage, as we begin to see that life is more than we > > > > thought, and again and again more than we thought. three is when > > the > > > > ego dream has been completely dissolved and the reality that was > > > > lived unquestioningly in the first state, and challenged in the > > > > second state is completely absent. Knowledge emerges in this > > third > > > > state that is fresh and new, constantly. It is no longer owned > > by > > > > us, or forming any sort of structure that must be defended. > > There is > > > > no longer anyone to defend it. Life in the other states is seen > > as > > > > the illusions that they are, and life in this state can only be > > > > understood by those living it. Life becomes a constant surprise, > > > > watching ever fascinated as we are flown from here to there to > > > > everywhere, watching out through the window of Creation. > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > Dude, that was sweet. > > > > > Dude, what was 'sweet' about it? > > Sweet as in cool or awesome. I really liked your description of the > states. > Great! I am glad you did.