--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" 
> > <j_alexander_stanley@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
<jflanegi@> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB 
<no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > I consider myself fortunate to have worked with Fred
> > > > > > Lenz (Rama), despite many negatives, because when you
> > > > > > were around him the energy field was so strong that 
> > > > > > it was almost impossible to hold onto *anything* long 
> > > > > > enough to believe it was "truth." You'd go out into 
> > > > > > the desert with the dude and have your belief systems 
> > > > > > (and your notions of what 'reality' is) blown right 
> > > > > > out of their socks dozens of times a night. So what's 
> > > > > > to hold onto?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The belief that Lenz had some supernormal ability to
> > > > > blow away your belief systems and notions of what
> > > > > "reality" is?
> > > > >
> > > > Ha-Ha! Yeah, good one! The thing that is impossible to 
> > understand 
> > > > except through direct experience is the truth of life, which 
> > occurs 
> > > > when reality has been blown away so many times through 
whatever 
> > > > practice that we finally live permanently outside of the 
realm 
> > of 
> > > > Maya. 
> > > > 
> > > > There seems to be three states here. one is the state where 
life 
> > is 
> > > > lived in the dream of illusion, of unquestioning, ruled by 
ego 
> > and 
> > > > the ego dream. two is the state that barry talks about and 
> > enjoys, 
> > > > where the ego dream is challenged and sometimes destroyed. 
It is 
> > an 
> > > > exciting stage, as we begin to see that life is more than we 
> > > > thought, and again and again more than we thought. three is 
when 
> > the 
> > > > ego dream has been completely dissolved and the reality that 
was 
> > > > lived unquestioningly in the first state, and challenged in 
the 
> > > > second state is completely absent. Knowledge emerges in this 
> > third 
> > > > state that is fresh and new, constantly. It is no longer 
owned 
> > by 
> > > > us, or forming any sort of structure that must be defended. 
> > There is 
> > > > no longer anyone to defend it. Life in the other states is 
seen 
> > as 
> > > > the illusions that they are, and life in this state can only 
be 
> > > > understood by those living it. Life becomes a constant 
surprise, 
> > > > watching ever fascinated as we are flown from here to there 
to 
> > > > everywhere, watching out through the window of Creation.
> > > > 
> > > > Jai Guru Dev
> > > 
> > > Dude, that was sweet.
> > >
> > Dude, what was 'sweet' about it?
> 
> Sweet as in cool or awesome. I really liked your description of the
> states.
> 
Great! I am glad you did.

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