off_world_beings wrote:
> YOU were talking about the 2004 election for which there was
> evidence of meddling with the process and the results 
> in key states...Ohio and New Hampshire for example.
>   
There's no evidence that the U.S. Electoral College was compromised in
any way. President's aren't elected by direct popular vote. The issue
was with the vote recount, not the vote of the Electoral College.
 
> There were many more than 2 candidates. This is not a football 
> game, only sub-species thinks that.
> 
All the party candidates supported the war - Gore, Lieberman, Edwards,
Kerry and Bush.
 
> > 
> > My solution? Fight a war to win - kill your enemies and protect
> > your weakest point.
> >
> You don't understand your enemies or war. You are like a kid, go
> play computer games. This is not the second world war that you are
> used to. Your kind has no place in the 20th century. Your MOAB's
> won't save you. You cannot win that way. Your species is becoming
> extinct because only smart strategy will win...Smart strategy is 
> as far away from GW Bush's brain as the Earth is to the Crab Nebula.
>
Well, there's been no terrorist attacks in the U.S. since 9-11, so
they must be doing something right. It's difficult to argue with
success like that - he's not doing bad in the economy area either. I'm
not a military tactician, but it seems to me that if you're going to
attack, you should attack to win, not lose. It's always better to
avoid the danger that lies ahead. The U.S should have taken over the
entire Middle East in my opinion, at the end of WW II - we won the war
fair and square against our enemies. From what I've read, there are
only two legitimate 'nations' in the Middle East, Iraq and Iran - all
the rest are just lines drawn in the sand.
 
> Iraq was no threat to the USA, did not harbor Al Quaida, hated 
> Al Quaida,
>
So, you're thinking that there were al Qaeda in Afghanistan,
Kurdistan, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Syria, Lebanon,
Egypt, Sudan, Morroco, Libya, Spain, France, Netherlands, Italy,
Greece, Britain, Indonesia, Australia, the United States and Canada,
but there were no al Qaeda in Iraq. Go figure.   

> and the only WMD's that Iraq had were old depleted ones
> given to them by Reagan, Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Bush Snr 
> in the '80's.
>
There were no weapons of mass destruction given to Iraq by the United
States. Most of the chemical and biological agents possessed by Iraq
were acquired from Germany and China. Saddam bought yellowcake from
Niger and Scud missles from North Korea and some jet planes from
Russia. France helped Saddam build a nuclear reactor. However, some of
the chemical agents found in Iraq, such as nerve gas, could still be
used for mass killings. 

"We've all reached a judgment the United States has to protect its
interests. [Saddam] may even slide these weapons off to terrorist
groups, it's the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat." -
John F. Kerry, September 2002 

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