--- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 2, 2007, at 11:22 PM, new.morning wrote: > > > Is total indifference the path towards "beyond duality", beyond praise > > and criticism, beyond good and bad karma? The end of the triple E ride > > and "being" that totality of all "rides"? > > > Indeed the non-dual path of the Ancient Ones is called "the path > beyond cause and effect". And of course they were persecuted by kings > whose whole *idea* of reality was based on cause-and-effect (karmic > law). Bob Thurman tells an interesting story in his teachings on > peace (his video podcast) when he's talking about tonglen. Tonglen is > a practice where you take in the suffering of others and then radiate > compassion and enlightenment to them. He gives an example of a master > who could do this so well he would take on the suffering of others > himself. The point being that if you stray from the non-dual view, > this is what happens, you exchange suffering rather than ameliorate > it for "you" and "them". In order for that to work though you need to > be in a space where there is no "me" and them".
Some people believe that this happens in ALL cases in exchanges between student and master, regardless of duality or non-duality. Karma is a dualistic thing. Being enlightened doesn't change the dualistic nature of karma. > > There are also wrathful forms of compassion, which is not "wrath" in > the sense of a negative emotion, but instead the liberated aspect of > that emotion which is very strongly capable of transforming certain > forms of ignorance. A typical example is like lioness's wrathful > compassion for her cubs when another another animal attacks them. Her > actions are out of a form of pure love for her children, but it's > still a very fierce, direct action. In a more practical sense it > could be consciously cultivated to protect the dharma from destroyers > of the dharma or those who harm sentient beings and at the same time > to transform ones own wrath into mirror-like wisdom. >
