--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
[mercy snip]
> >
> And the flip side could be called Muslim baiting and anti-Iranian 
> propaganda. I appreciated the full quote from the Iranian Ministry, 
> because it does dispel the lie that is widely propagated by those 
> who want to attack Iran that Iran's government wants to destroy the 
> US and Israel. Another example that our country can dish it out, but 
> can't take it. What a bunch of self-righteous sissified losers we 
> are sometimes!
>

The first victim in war is truth.

Given that a being-at-war mentality is part-and-parcel of the American
national mental makeup there is a strong need to see through the
spinning and lying persistently manufactured by the media industry.

One tool that might help when doing this is to view actions through
the prism of realpolitik.

When we do this, what do we see?

The distinct possibility that the US government right after WWII
decided to use the European large-scale organized killings of Jews in
order to establish a foothold in the Middle East.

The problem today is that the way the US government went about the
creation of this foothold was so clumsy that it today is being dragged
down by the web of it's own lies.

How is that?

An apparently small but growing body of engineering minded folks have
done forensic studies at the so-called Nazi death camps and come to
the conclusion that MO and numbers of Jews reportedly killed there
simply cannot be true. Sure there were killings, but all these
millions? And using Zyklon B?

The reason why such a rather scholarly enterprise of adjusting
historical figures down invoke such fury need not be not because they
deny the Holocaust (as such they don't, even though they are used for
political purposes), but because the findings threaten to dismantle
the US propaganda lie which became part of the founding reason for the
creation of the state of Israel.

If what the Leuchter report finds is true, you (1) have a very solid
argument why some of Israel's neighbors are so pissed off by the US
actions in the region; as well as (2) a radically improved
understanding of why calls for annihilation/regime change of/in Israel
are heard (whichever is the case).

Perhaps this is good time for the state of Israel and Jews to start
asking themselves who, with friends like the US of A, needs enemies? 

Perhaps an accord can be reached between an already nuclear armed Tel
Aviv and soon to be nuclear armed Teheran on the basis that both of
them together ensure that the US of A is once and for all kicked out
of the region?

The Leuchter Report
http://www.ihr.org/books/leuchter/leuchter.toc.html

Criticism of the report
http://www.nizkor.org/faqs/leuchter


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