--- In [email protected], "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > douglasportee writessnipped: > > It is an open invitation to mood make by offering people the > > chance to get on a global telecast in front of Maharishi, > > during the 1st and 2nd rounds, and impress their friends, > > knowing that no one can ask for any proof of the validity > > of their experiences. > > Tom T: > On the other hand many here have been so brow beat with the > "those who know don't say" that they need a swift kick in > the butt to get them to see that which has been there forever. > Most here in FF are looking for the big hit type of awakening > like Eckhart Tolle or Byron Katie. Most here are what the > waking down folks call oozzers. They have kind of slid into > it so gradual they deserve to be prodded to look carefuly at > what has been available for a long time. Whatever it takes > to get them off the path and settled into their natural > state is appropriate after 35 to 40 years on the path. Tom
I agree with you if the experiences being reported are real. If they are not, and what these people are reporting is what they are *expected* to report, then I would say that this is a mechanism for settling into the natural state of lying -- to themselves and to others. We don't know. The experiences being reported are subjective, and as such we will *never* know. When it comes to reports of realization, I'm willing to cut the reporters some slack. If I can experience it, *anyone* can. When it comes to reports of seeing Devas, especially when Devas are the New Hot Thing To Be Reported, and Where You Want To Be To Be Happening In The TM Movement, I cut less slack.
