--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Agreed. Each of the criticisms of Maharishi and each of 
> > > the praises of him, or responses to the criticisms should 
> > > be judged on their own merits. I agree that Barry looks 
> > > pretty one-sided sometimes, as if he has already made up 
> > > his mind regarding any responses to a criticism of 
> > > Maharishi and what that represents to him.
> > 
> > Jim, this is an *assumption* on your part, and, as
> > it turns out, an *erroneous* assumption. I have NO
> > OPINION on the questions Paul asked, because I don't
> > know the answers. It really doesn't MATTER to me
> > whether Maharishi is a well-meaning but flawed monk
> > or a con man. I don't have any opinion on the subject
> > at all. He's not my teacher; I have nothing invested
> > in him one way or another. But you obviously do.
> > 
> > I think that what you're upset about is that Paul is
> > asking the questions that YOU should have asked 'way
> > back when, and never did. 
> > 
> > These questions should have been asked back in 1959,
> > and by every person who learned TM along the way. But
> > they weren't. Most people just treated everything that
> > Maharishi said as if it were automatically some cosmic
> > truth, and accepted it as Truth. And now, when someone
> > asks the simple questions that they should have asked,
> > and would have asked of anyone who was trying to sell
> > them something other than meditation, they get all 
> > upset and try to trash the person who is asking these
> > questions now as if he's some kind of heretic.
> > 
> > I think you're angry at YOURSELF for never questioning
> > the stories you bought about Maharishi's background,
> > and the nature of his relationship with Guru Dev, and
> > whether Guru Dev would ever have approved of what 
> > Maharishi has done in his name. 
> > 
> > I don't know the truth of the situation. Neither, as
> > far as I can tell, does Paul. But at least he had the
> > balls to ASK THE QUESTIONS, and you didn't. He had the
> > initiative to TRY TO FIND OUT, and you didn't. You
> > just believed what you were told to believe.
> > 
> > I do NOT necessarily agree with the commentary Paul
> > included in his last "question." But it doesn't bother
> > me in the least that he included it. That is his right.
> > What he expressed was his *opinion*, formed after years
> > of doing the legwork that no one else was ever willing
> > to do. It really doesn't matter AT ALL to me what Paul
> > or anyone else says about Maharishi. WHY does it bother
> > you? Do you somehow believe that it is impolite or
> > insulting to ask questions of Maharishi that you'd 
> > probably ask of any other salesman trying to sell you
> > something?
> > 
> > Would you shirk at asking John Gray about how the 'Ph.D.'
> > suddenly started appearing at the end of his name on his
> > promotional materials? IF you asked, you might learn that
> > the "degree" came from the University of P.O. Box 2000,
> > and that the "course of study" involved in earning that
> > degree consisted of putting a check in the mail. Would 
> > asking about *that* be impolite or insulting? If not, why 
> > would questioning Maharishi's claim to a degree he seems 
> > unable to document be impolite or insulting? Why would 
> > asking him whether Guru Dev *really* taught him TM be 
> > inappropriate, or asking him ANY other question?
> 
> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

I rest my case. True Believers are the worst
possible advertisement for any spiritual path.




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