--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> > wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > I really hope you're able to have such an experience someday,
> > > even though I suspect when it happens you'll run screaming
> > > out of the room within a few short hours. But even that running
> > > away will be better than sitting there clinging to the same 
old 
> > > mindstates, the same old angers and hatreds, the same old argu-
> > > ments, and...well...the same old same old. Good luck finding
> > > someone who is patient enough to deal with your spiritual heel-
> > > dragging; I certainly am not.
> > 
> > Judy, here is an example where Barry (aka Turq, Unc) *gets* you, 
> > again. He feeds off your continued passion, what he refers to as 
> > attachment, for things like answering a question according to 
agreed 
> > upon parameters. You painstakingly researched the numerous times 
> > when he hasn't held himself accountable here and the result was 
that 
> > he laughed at you. He only exists from the reactions to his 
posts. 
> > He neither feels responsible for what he says, nor accountable 
for 
> > anything he may post. I'll say it again, its all a game to him. 
> > 
> > There is nothing to learn. Per his post above, he feels he is 
doing 
> > you and any who disagree with him a service by supposedly 
blasting 
> > us out of our old mind states, kind of like a one-trick pony. I 
read 
> > the posts from 2000 on the other web site. This has been Barry's 
> > schtick for years and years. The outrage he can cause by feeding 
off 
> > of yours and others concern for various spiritual topics, or 
facts, 
> > albeit somewhat ghoulishly, is not to be taken seriously.
> > 
> > To feel what it is like to be Barry, it would be like one of us 
> > visiting a site devoted to chess for example, and stating things 
> > like, "the pawn is more powerful than the Queen", just for 
reaction 
> > and effect. As long as people kept responding to our statements 
> > because of the falsehoods they perceived in them, we win; we 
> > continue to exist on the forum. We are then free to riff on 
others' 
> > confoundment and call it anything we wish, spawning further 
> > confoundment and by extension, our continued existence on the 
forum.
> > 
> > For now this phenomenon fascinates me, because I am aware of its 
> > simple genesis-- the ability by Barry to challenge anything said 
> > here, with the result being he continues to exist. Unprincipled, 
> > unnacountable, and meaningless perhaps, but in the spotlight.
> > 
> > Once you take it seriously, he wins. He is not playing by the 
same 
> > set of rules that you are. Its really a little bit childish, and 
> > quite easy to decode once you see what his game is. He appears 
to 
> > make it valid by the claim that anyone seeking accountability 
from 
> > him is just not getting it, is angry, or caught up in 
boundaries. 
> > 
> > This, as a few seconds of reflection will show is utter 
foolishness. 
> > And at first you may respond to the unfairness of it all. But 
that 
> > is where Barry wins. To take him seriously, you automatically 
lose, 
> > for it is only a fool's game he plays.
> > 
> > So do you continue to play as his fool, or not to play at all? 
Your 
> > choice, of course.
> 
> You remind me of Charley on "Lost." 
> 
> Whereas I remind me of a combination of Des and Hurley.
> 
> See Jim...if you had broadened your horizons a bit and 
> watched a little TV you'd actually get this.  :-)
> 
> Unc
> 
> P.S. You forgot to say, "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz."
>
Oh, the answer is in TV? Or is the 'answer' only in your head? I 
just can't take you seriously any more, though I do enjoy your 
dancing, as one enjoys a jester. Dance away- we'll be fools together 
for the moment...

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