"completed Jews." I don't know how they get the foreskin back on but that's gotta hurt!
I never took the time to really connect the vague prophesies in the Old Testament with the New claims to notice how they fail even by their own criteria. I usually get hung up on the miracles. The weird thing is that even if you definitively pointed all this out,the Christian just drops back and punts. "Well it is just a matter of faith". --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > Sista soul Ja lays it down. Who else has read both of the relevant > > scriptures? Well me for one, but you get my point! > > > > Most of the New Testiment is based on making the case of Jesus' > > divinity through miricles and fullfullment of prophesy. Nice one > > Judy. > > Thanks. I ain't no Bible scholar, but the fundamental > dishonesty of Christianity regarding Judaism, in the > Gospels and Paul's epistles, just infuriates me. The > toll it's taken on Jews for the past 2,000 years is > beyond appalling. > > And so many Christian proselytizers are either ignorant > about Judaism or deliberately take advantage of some > Jews' ignorance of their own religion to make their > case. (Not referring to MDixon here; he's more > knowledgeable than I am and doesn't seem like the > proselytizing type.) > > The ultimate outrage along these lines is the phrase > evangelical/fundamentalist Christians use to refer > to Jews who have converted to Christianity: "completed > Jews." I hope I never hear such a Christian use the > phrase "live," because I'd either burst a blood > vessel or burst one of his, or both. > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/20/07 1:01:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > And just as Joseph revealed his circumcision to his > > > > brothers to prove > > > > > who he was, Christ will reveal to the Jews the scars in his > > > > hands, feet and > > > > > side to prove who he was when he returns. > > > > > > > > I don't think that's likely to do the trick, actually. > > > > For Jews there are more important issues involved. > > > > > > > > No , that will not be what makes them accept him as Messiah, > > > > but will show them that he was Jesus. > > > > > > Anybody can have scars on their hands and feet > > > and side. > > > > > > The problem with Jesus as Messiah is that he > > > clearly wasn't the Messiah prophesied to the Jews > > > in the Hebrew Scriptures. Among other things, > > > The prophesied Messiah will be a human being, not > > > God. And it's blasphemy in Judaism to say a human > > > being is divine. The High Priest wasn't ripping > > > his garments just for dramatic effect. > > > > > > I know the response to this is that the Jews have > > > misunderstood their own scriptures, but that's > > > just insulting. It's no wonder knowledgeable Jews > > > aren't interested. > > > > > > I'm not saying Jesus wasn't a Really Big Deal, just > > > that Christians ought to leave the Jews the frack > > > alone about him and worry about their own salvation. > > > If God wants His Chosen People to turn to Jesus, > > > He'll find a way to do it, but I seriously doubt it's > > > going to look like a parallel between Bible stories. > > > And He's got a whole lot of 'splainin' to do. > > > > > >
