--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > That makes what we say a *valid* matter of opinion,
> > > > one based on our own personal experience. Compare
> > > > and contrast to someone who chooses to actively
> > > > trash a film they've never seen, just because some-
> > > > one *told* them it was bad. And who will almost
> > > > certainly never see the film in question out of 
> > > > fear of finding out differently.
> > > 
> > > Again, Barry is afraid to use my name.
> > 
> > This is going to be fun. I just love it when
> > what's-her-name gets so angry at me that she
> > has to resort to lying or making things up.
> 
> Translation: Barry's been caught lying again, and
> that makes him so angry and afraid that he's about
> to tell more lies to distract attention from the
> first.
>  
> > > I never said, of course, that "Apocalypto" was
> > > "bad."  
> > 
> > You'll notice what's-her-name's use of quotes
> > above. She places them around the word "bad"
> > as if I had attributed that word to her as a 
> > direct quote.
> 
> Yup, here we go with the new lies.  As Barry (and
> anyone with a modest degree of literacy) knows,
> my putting "bad" in quotes does not imply that
> Barry had attributed the word to me as a direct
> quote.  It indicates that I'm quoting *him*.  If
> he had attributed the word to me as if it were a
> direct quote, and I were quoting him, I'd have had
> to put the word in single quotes and enclosed the
> whole thing in double quotes: "'bad.'"
> 
>  I did not. I said that she had
> > "trashed" the film because someone *else* told
> > her it was bad.
> 
> Nobody told me the film was "bad," nor did I
> suggest anyone did.  Another lie from Barry.
> 
> > I stand by the word "trashed"
> 
> "Trashed" is fine.  "Trashed" can refer to many
> different types of criticisms of a film, including
> *but not limited to* its artistic quality.  "Bad,"
> in contrast, virtually always refers only to the
> artistic quality.
> 
> You *must* have seen the film to comment legitimately
> on its artistic quality.  You *need not* have seen
> the film to make other types of criticisms that are
> included in the "trashing" category.
> 
> Every review I've read acknowledges that the artistic
> quality of the film is very high.  Quite a few
> of these reviews have also *trashed* it for various
> reasons, including its excessive violence, its
> historical inaccuracies, and its bigotry (both
> religious and ethnic).
> 
> > (even though she never said it) because when 
> > the person told her what to believe, she did
> > so unquestioningly, and immediately started a
> > thread here on Fairfield Life entitled, "Mel 
> > Gibson, Christian bigot." That choice of title
> > was her own; it was not mentioned in the article
> > she quoted from, if I am not mistaken.
> > 
> > In that same post (that *she* started), in addition
> > to quoting from the article, she added the final
> > piece of her *own* commentary at the end:
> > 
> > * To highlight what the writer tactfully leaves
> > * implicit, Gibson has slandered the Maya and
> > * mangled history for the purpose of exalting the
> > * purported superiority of Christianity.
> > 
> > All of this without ever having seen the film.
> 
> Right.  And unless the review I quoted, and all the
> others I've read, have been lying about the facts of
> *what happens* in the film, there's no need for a
> person to see it to comment on those facts.
> 
> <snip>
> > > Unlike Barry, who pronounced judgment on
> > > Lynch's film, calling it "stupid," without having
> > > seen it, I don't critique the quality of films I
> > > haven't seen.
> > 
> > Now we get to the FUN part. I challenge what's-
> > her-name to come up with a quote here on Fairfield
> > Life in which I referred to David Lynch's "Inland
> > Empire" as "stupid."
> 
> As Barry knows, he's made this impossible, because
> he deleted the post in which he said it shortly
> after he made it--but not before I'd seen it.
> 
> The post dumped on Lawson for defending, before
> seeing the film, what Barry then referred to as
> a "stupid movie"--although he hadn't seen it yet
> either.
> 
> (And Lawson hadn't even been defending the film,
> only the creativity of the test film available
> on YouTube, which he *had* seen.)
> 
> See post #126474 from me concerning this incident.
> Not surprisingly, Barry chose not to reply to it.
> 
> (Note that I said I had seen it "early morning
> Wednesday"; I meant "early morning Thursday."  The
> missing post is #126412.)


I had forgotten the level of paranoia and
insanity I was dealing with. My apologies
to FFL for having made that mistake, yet
again.



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