--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <jflanegi@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > If it weren't for the by far greater number of spiritual
> > > > > seekers who do NOT fall into this trap and become fanatics,
> > > > > the few who *become* fanatics would stand as a blanket
> > > > > condemnation of spirituality and the spiritual path itself.
> > > > > Fortunately, the balanced, sane followers of spiritual
> > > > > paths are more numerous, and represent well the same 
> > > > > traditions that the unsane fanatics make a mockery of.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry's shoot-the-messenger demonization
> > > > tendencies are brilliantly on display in this
> > > > post. And note that his rant represents the
> > > > identical us-vs.-them kind of polarization he's
> > > > decrying: reasonable people vs. "fanatics,"
> > > > sane vs. "unsane."
> > > > 
> > > > Fanaticism, unreasonableness, and "unsanity"
> > > > exist at the extremes of both sides of these
> > > > issues.  In between there's a wide range of
> > > > views, but there's no such middle ground for
> > > > Barry.  Distinguishing between shades of gray
> > > > is "hard work" that it's just too much trouble
> > > > for him to undertake.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry Wright, Master of Inadvertent Irony.
> > > 
> > > Yep, he is someone who is only comfortable in a black and 
> > > white world. The fanatics of which he speaks only exist 
> > > in the comfort of his unenlightened mind, where he creates 
> > > them in order to have a false foundation from which to make 
> > > sense of an illusionary world.
> > 
> > 
> > Uh, Judy and Jim...
> > 
> > I'm trying to understand why you're reacting so
> > strongly above to what I wrote. Did you somehow
> > think that I was referring to YOU?
> 
> Actually not, since you had recently made it clear
> in another (admittedly bizarre) post how amazed you
> were and how shocking it was that Jim and I would be
> willing to express an opinion similar to that of the
> folks you designated as "the crazies."
> 
> That in itself was odd, given how insistent you had
> been up until that post that Jim and I were "unsane
> fanatics." But apparently the post represented a new
> "state of attention" that, while it meant you had to
> give up the "fanatics" line of attack, opened up the
> potential of a whole new line of demonization in
> which Jim's and my integrity and "values" could be
> called in question because <gasp> we were willing to
> risk a guilt-by-association smear from you by taking a
> position also held by the "crazies."
> 
> In any case, whichever side of your us-vs.-them
> formula you choose to place me and Jim on any given
> day, *my* point was the formula itself and your need
> to put people on one side or the other.  It was a
> "strong  reaction," in other words, to yet another
> manifestation of your tendency to project your own
> behavior onto others and then proceed to demonize
> them.

You still seem to be ranting, when all you had
to do was respond to one question, which you seem
to have accidentally snipped from your reply:

Do you NOT consider the two TMers who referred to 
Paul Mason as a demon or who suggested that he was 
in league with demonic forces to be fanatics?

If the answer is "Yes, I consider them fanatics,"
then we have nothing further to discuss. If the
answer is "No, I do not consider them fanatics,"
then we also have nothing further to discuss,
but for different reasons.

Either way...buh-bye...  :-)



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