Curtis, I have a former boss who recently attended a seminar (according to my old co-worker who was there) and described himself on the board as "DIVINE". However, he misspelled it! LOL...life is funny..
Regards, John R. --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > Curtis, > > > > How do we know that this was Jesus' tomb? Can anyone really prove > > it? > > I agree with you that this has not been proved. I don't know if it is > even possible to prove it. Even if you could prove it, this > wouldn't make any difference to the Christians who value faith without > evidence. There are many Christians who don't believe that his body > went to heaven but only his soul, so this wouldn't matter to them > either. I just enjoy people discussing it. > > The death of Jesus was an historical fact. However, the > > resurrection of Jesus is based on the belief of the apostles and > > their followers. > > And their conflicting accounts in the advocacy piece, the Bible. > Resurrection myths are common in lots of cultures. People love to > believe that when someone dies, they are not dead. I am OK with the > probability of staying dead so those ideas have little appeal for me. > > > > The Easter event is not only a commemoration of Jesus resurrection. > > It is also an affirmation by Christians that humans too has a stake > > into divinity. > > > > In a sense, Guru Dev's teachings have some similarity to the > > Christian dogma. > > I can't tell if this is a belief that you share yourself. Although I > am enthusiastic about my lack of belief in Christianity or Gurus > higher insights into imponderable areas of life, if it is working for > you, high five man. I am saying that I don't know this stuff and I am > skeptical of people who claim to. For me the human condition is > becoming comfortable with the fact that we know very little about life > and nothing about after death. I have my suspicions though. > > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. > > > > Thanks for the friendly post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > I saw that too and I had it on my video disc so I had Laura flapping > > > her gums to high speed too! Funny image. > > > > > > I was more sympathetic to the Baptist dudes response to Cameron. I > > > also think this is the longest of long shots. His insistence that > > he > > > "knew" about Jesus from the Bible did make me laugh. > > > > > > I agree that by the time he was debating the other Bible scholar he > > > was not as coherent. The phrase from the other scholar that > > > "statistics is counterintuitive" gave me a skeptical boner. > > > > > > I take this kind of discussion of even the remote possibility that > > > Jesus did not arise from his grave to be a generally good sign. > > This > > > is one of the more disturbing beliefs for modern people to have for > > > me. It means that any discussion of how they 'know" this is not > > going > > > to go anywhere. It is my favorite Easter joke made real: > > > > > > Did you hear they canceled Easter this year? > > > > > > No, why? > > > > > > They found the body. > > > > > > Even hearing people on popular media discuss this gives me so much > > > pleasure. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Larry King Live at 9:00 p.m. ET > > > > > on Monday, February 26, 2007 > > > > > > > > > > CNN Tonight: First Lady Laura Bush! > > > > > > > > > > Laura Bush, from the White House, on her urgent mission > > > > > to save America's women from their deadliest killer! > > > > > Plus, how is her husband handling the stress of being > > > > > commander in chief of an increasingly unpopular war? > > > > > > > > > > Then, an explosive announcement today by 'Titanic' > > > > > director James Cameron that's setting off > > > > > passionate debate among Christians around the world! > > > > > Have they found the tomb where Jesus was buried? > > > > > James Cameron claims the tomb may have held > > > > > Jesus' bones - and evidence Jesus had a son! > > > > > But, if Jesus was resurrected would > > > > > there even be earthly remains? > > > > > The debate heats up! > > > > > > > > I'm watching my recording of this show. I can't report > > > > any impressions of Laura Bush other than the hilarity of > > > > funny how her flapping lips look when fast-forwarded, but > > > > I'm now watching the segment on Jim Cameron and Simcha > > > > Jacobovici and their film. > > > > > > > > T'would seem that the "DNA evidence" they quote indicates > > > > that the body in the tomb marked 'Jesus' and the body in > > > > the tomb marked 'Mary Amene' (Mary Magdalene) are not related > > > > by DNA matrilinearly. Therefore, if they are buried in the > > > > same family tomb, it is likely that they were married. > > > > > > > > The "statistical evidence" they seem to rely on is just that. > > > > If one were to be on a crowded street in ancient Jerusalem > > > > and call out the name "Jesus," there is a 4% chance that some- > > > > one named Jesus would be there. Similarly, if one were to call > > > > out the name "Mary," there would be a 25% chance of finding a > > > > Mary. But as the statistician explains, if we were to call out > > > > the names "Jesus," "Mary," "Joseph," "Matthew," and "Josei" > > > > at the same time, the chances of all of those people being in > > > > the same location are quite low. > > > > > > > > A Southern Baptist minister they cut to embarrassed himself > > > > thoroughly with his lack of understanding of DNA evidence, > > > > and his bristling, kneejerk defense of something (his beliefs) > > > > that had not even been challenged. Cameron replied calmly, and > > > > without making any claims one way or another. He did what many > > > > do here on Fairfield Life, and allowed the kneejerker to rant > > > > on, merely pointing out at the end that what he was ranting > > > > *about* was a film that he had never seen. (Sound familiar?) > > > > > > > > The SoBap minister finally got into a raging argument with > > > > another Biblical scholar who had written a number of books > > > > on this subject. The president of the Catholic League con- > > > > ducted himself much better at first, saying that he "wanted > > > > to see the evidence," but then he pulled a Judy Stein and > > > > trotted out some bad reviews of Simcha's past documentaries > > > > in an attempt to undermine his credibility. He then lost it > > > > heavily, and a calm, collected Simcha Jacobovici had to > > > > remind him (and the audience) that "Screaming doesn't make > > > > something true." > > > > > > > > Me, I don't know what the final film will report, and unlike > > > > The Blindfolded Film Critic, won't speculate on it without > > > > having seen it myself, but it sure seems likely that this > > > > TV broadcast will draw out crazies of all sorts, and allow > > > > them to display that craziness in prime time and on the pages > > > > of every newspaper and magazine. > > > > > > > > It'll be a veritable phenomenon. Think of it as the whole > > > > world suddenly resembling the petty, kneejerk arguments we > > > > see on Fairfield Life all too often. Surely this must be > > > > some facet of the ME at work. > > > > > > > > > >
