--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> 
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 5, 2007, at 12:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], hermandan0 
<no_reply@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The whole question is elementary and not really worth
> > > > >> arguing about.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the whole point is that some TMers have turned
> > > > > it *into* an argument, and do so again every time this
> > > > > subject comes up here. As some have suggested, it kinda
> > > > > looks as if they have done so because they are more
> > > > > attached to the dogma they were taught being "right"
> > > > > than they are to common sense.
> > > > 
> > > > It does take courage to deviate from the memorized scripts 
we 
> all  
> > > > tend to keep and re-run like little tape loops.
> > > 
> > > So do you and Barry have the guts to deviate from
> > > your "TMers are just mindlessly repeating the dogma
> > > they've been taught" tape loop and incorporate the
> > > possibility that they're telling you what their
> > > personal experience is?
> > > 
> > > One of Barry's maxims is "Trust your own experience."
> > > But somehow that's never extended to "Trust someone
> > > else when they tell you what their experience is"
> > > if that someone else happens to be a TMer.
> > 
> > Well, having been a TM teacher, I do have a 
> > few problems sometimes believing what people 
> > WHO HAVE BEEN TOLD IN ADVANCE WHAT 
> > THEIR EXPERIENCE WOULD BE tell me of 
> > what their experience was.
> > 
> > In other words, when dealing with a situation
> > in which one knows that the speakers have been
> > programmed (because you were once one of the
> > programmers), and when they repeat as "personal
> > experiences" exactly the things they were told
> > to EXPECT as their personal experiences, it's
> > not as easy to believe these people as it seems
> > to be for *them* to believe it.
> 
> Uh-huh.  That's your script, and by God, you're
> sticking to it.  They couldn't possibly be having
> experiences that validate the predictions.
> 
> But what I was asking was whether you had the
> courage to deviate from that script.  You've
> answered my question very nicely, thank you.
>
99% of what Barry says in these rants is due to his coffee 
addiction, and shouldn't be taken seriously. He has over a decade's 
worth of empty experience in which he has learned to craft an 
argument on-line (applause for the little boy!). He adds his coffee 
addiction to this and spins many fanciful and empty stories.

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