--- In [email protected], "Mr. Magoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Mr. Magoo" <wgm4u@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <rick@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In the intro to Love and God, p. 11, with reference to Guru
Dev,
> > > > Maharishi says "We only pray Him to keep on guiding us,"
implying
> > > > that he considers Guru Dev to still be playing a active role
from
> > > > wherever he is.
> > >
> > > MMY says, "We only pray...", he doesn't say he IS!! MMY may or
may
> > > not know, or it may be presumptous for him to say. Whether
Swami
> > > Brahmananda took on a 'Bodhisattva' role in the governence of
the
> > > Universe is speculative at best and CLEARLY has nothing to do
with
> > > 'awareness' spoken of in the puja!
> >
> > Have you ever heard Maharishi admit to the possibility
> > of someone who is enlightened dying and taking on a
> > 'Bodhisattva' role? I sure haven't. I remember one long
> > lecture in which he went on and on and on saying that
> > the *only* possibility for what happens to an enlight-
> > ened being when they die is that "the drop returns to
> > the ocean," and he said definitely in that talk (in
> > response to several direct questions) that there was
> > *no* possibility of an enlightened being ever incarnating
> > again in any form -- human or subtle.
> >
> > Now I don't personally believe this, but that's what the
> > man said. But then he has waffled on many subjects before,
> > so it's possible that he later recanted and allowed for
> > there being more possibilities than the one he was adamant
> > about in that talk. Has anyone here ever heard Maharishi
> > speak of anything other than "the drop returns to the
> > ocean" model?
> >
> > I'm mentioning it because if no one has, then Jim's claim
> > to have "met" Guru Dev would seem to imply that Maharishi
> > was...uh...wrong.
> >
> > Either that or it's possible that Jim was...uh...wrong,
> > and what he "met" was the aftereffects of one of his
> > burger and margarita feasts. :-)
>
> In the broader context, I think a Master can reconstitute his form
at
> any time, the essence (consciousness) is the same. Even Christ
> appeared to his disciples after the Resurrection. Form is not soul!
>
To think otherwise would be to consider the Master not a master of
Reality at all. Perhaps that is what Vaj and Barry are saying,
reflecting their starving consciousness.
